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The context here is UK rural areas which are not quite like other places. Imagine a road that can fit 1 car, with wider places every few hundred metres and 2m+ hedges on both sides, immediately next to the road. Apart from specific paths you can't really go into a field. Random example https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/narrow-road-high-hedge-18153... Not all counties will look like that, but quite a lot of them to. Ima…

I found myself walking on one of these roads as the sun began to set last summer and it was actually quite terrifying. We’d made a long loop walking through the hills in the Cotswolds, and the guidebook would have had us crossing a large pasture to get back to the start. At the gate we were confronted by a couple of rowdy young bulls who seemed to have little interest in letting us cross their field, so we took the r…

I spent some time in the Dallas-Fort-Worth area, staying at a typical suburbian region. This was before I had a car or driver's license.

It was shocking to me how isolated I was. There was a gas station that I could walk to, but even getting to the fast food place that I could see from my house was dangerous because the neighborhood was surrounded by wide roads and fast cars. Whenever my hosts wanted to get fast food, they'd drive there even though it was literally a stone's throw away.

The wider area was even stranger. A high school that you could only really reach by car. A 'proper' city nearby (Fort Worth) where it seemed like nobody thought to make it accessible to pedestrians. multiple cut-and-paste neighborhoods just like the one I stayed at, completely isolated and only accessible by car. And consistently a Walmart/Kroger's/ area every 20 mins or so, with one 'bigger' shopping area that had no character or charm but at least it had a movie theater and restaurants.

After that experience I understood why having a car is so crucial in the US, but I also started respecting more how difficult it is to avoid things like obesity or pill addiction. it felt so eery and unnatural.

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That is helpful context. Wow, they really don't want to see their neighbors. Safe roads require unobstructed sight lines.

There's usually nothing but fields or woodland behind the hedges. Have a poke about on google maps. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.0386913,-0.0888581,3a,90y,... While I agree that they're bad for sightlines, they're also traditional and may be on private land, so getting rid of them from minor roads would be a hugely unpopular undertaking.

It's interesting to discover a seemingly avoidable hazard to which the British are sentimentally attached. Perhaps it's not quite comparable to our attachment to firearms.

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From what I understand the specific behavior is actually and intrinsically linked to the idea of a white woman in America and has historically existed for quite a while among black circles (from the 1800s at least). Discussing Karen as if it’s new belies the actual history of it. [0] 0. https://www.npr.org/2020/07/14/891177904/whats-in-a-karen

What a weird assertion, when you link to an article that asserts something entirely different. The above NPR, states that a Karen is a new label, started in the 2010s (which is just last year, even). It also shows how the Karen label is different from other, prior labels. It delineates how a Becky is different, a "Miss Ann" is different. We've historically had labels like this for people, which are racially linked. B…

I’m arguing that the idea of a karen is not new, sorry to be unclear.

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What a weird assertion, when you link to an article that asserts something entirely different. The above NPR, states that a Karen is a new label, started in the 2010s (which is just last year, even). It also shows how the Karen label is different from other, prior labels. It delineates how a Becky is different, a "Miss Ann" is different. We've historically had labels like this for people, which are racially linked. B…

I’m arguing that the idea of a karen is not new, sorry to be unclear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

Slurs are not new. And as I mentioned, what you showed were not Karens, but 'white women who act poorly in certain ways'.

"Kaben" has unique connotations, a specific meaning. While I agree that "white women have had slurs" before 'Karen', I'm going to have to disagree that it's germane here.

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> An American suburb is, basically by definition, never more than 15 minutes drive ... which to a lot of the rest of the world is a really, really long ways and essentially "not in the same area".

I'm not sure why. The drive for me in Michigan to get to the nearest grocery store, was not meaningfully different than it was from, say a random suburb in the UK to get to the nearest Tesco.

Again, in a lot of the ACTUAL world, a 15 minute drive isn't possible. That's a ... 5-10 mile walk?

Think beyond suburbia, which is really quite small in the scheme of things.

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> An American suburb is, basically by definition, never more than 15 minutes drive ... which to a lot of the rest of the world is a really, really long ways and essentially "not in the same area".

I'm not sure why. The drive for me in Michigan to get to the nearest grocery store, was not meaningfully different than it was from, say a random suburb in the UK to get to the nearest Tesco.

The crucial point is that such a grocery trip basically requires a car. Meanwhile the rest of the world is used to having businesses within walkable reach.

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Do people not even walk for leisure/exercise? Just reading this makes me feel kind of claustrophobic.

Yes for sure Americans walk for leisure and casual exercise. It's popular to imply Americans don't walk. It's true the culture is more pragmatic (why walk when I could drive and get more done), but it's not true that it's unusual to see people out walking on sidewalks, parks, and lakes. My neighborhood has a walking trail around a small lake (takes 45 minutes to do a lap). There are 20-50 people walking it at almost…

Maybe in your region but in suburban Cleveland it certainly is freakish to see anybody on their legs outside of a shopping mall.
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