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Montreal is taxing churches (2017)

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Re: Montreal is taxing churches (2017)

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Churches get a bad rap these days, for many reasons. I want to take a minute to defend them. Right away, I want to say that I am not defending religion-driven bigotry, nor megachurches, nor abuse. I don't know about Canada, but in the U.S. churches are still where communities meet, where people connect with the spiritual world, and also the ones doing most of the "heavy lifting" on any kind of charity activity. They…

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Re: Montreal is taxing churches (2017)

#22
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's obvious that a religion gets special treatment over say a club and it is unneeded.

How about tax exemptions for clubs too. If it's a group of people pooling money for non commercial activities why should that be taxed?

These sound like property taxes, but that aside, your example could register itself as a non profit organization.

The important distinction between non-profits and churches in the US is that churches do not have to demonstrate that they aren’t a just a profit generating company (see Scientology, many evangelical churches) - they don’t have to provide any documentation at all.

I’m fine with churches being untaxed non-profits, as long as they actually demonstrate that.

Re: Montreal is taxing churches (2017)

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Makes sense to me, and should be done in the US as well. Providing a tax exemption is in a way the opposite of a separation of church and state. The state is giving them special treatment.

> The state is giving them special treatment. No it's not. All non-profits are untaxed. If you are going to charge churches, then charge all non-profits. Personally I think that's a bad policy.

Many churches are not non-profits. In fact they have quite big profits.

Re: Montreal is taxing churches (2017)

#26
All orgs that have the ability to enrich their employees should pay their fair share. I'm looking at you churches, charities and california golf courses... The fact that mega churches got PPE forgiveness loans would make my blood boil if I was a small business who didn't make the cut.

Re: Montreal is taxing churches (2017)

#27

Makes sense to me, and should be done in the US as well. Providing a tax exemption is in a way the opposite of a separation of church and state. The state is giving them special treatment.

In Japan post temples are clearly for profit operations (charging people outrageous amounts of money for about anything) and they are also not taxed by the government. Which is why you have a plethora of sects.

Re: Montreal is taxing churches (2017)

#28

Churches get a bad rap these days, for many reasons. I want to take a minute to defend them. Right away, I want to say that I am not defending religion-driven bigotry, nor megachurches, nor abuse. I don't know about Canada, but in the U.S. churches are still where communities meet, where people connect with the spiritual world, and also the ones doing most of the "heavy lifting" on any kind of charity activity. They…

That's presumably because the US is so Christian. In other countries there are plenty of non-Christian charities. In general people aren't good because religion tells them to be.

Re: Montreal is taxing churches (2017)

#30

Makes sense to me, and should be done in the US as well. Providing a tax exemption is in a way the opposite of a separation of church and state. The state is giving them special treatment.

Are there any countries where the religious groups are NOT exempt from taxes? I'd be curious if this has been done and those religious groups still managed to remain "open to public" while surviving on private donations.

Britain nationalised church property during the reformation.
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