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Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by blendergeek » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 5:31 AM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #4

blendergeek wrote: post #2

I haven't tried this out yet, but from the release notes it sounds like the new facial recognition system will be better than I am. I am not good at recognizing faces and have been waiting for quite some time for a good open source tool to recognize faces with.

Never thought of people with facial agnosia.. someone make an app !

According to Wikipedia it is called prosopagnosia [1]. I have never been formally diagnosed, but I cannot even recognize the faces of my own family members to save my life. Having software that sorts faces will be great. Given that I only use open source software, I am quite excited for this new release.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by flo123456 » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:03 AM UTC

formerly_proven wrote: post #63

caseyf7 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is considered the best DAM (digital asset manager) for photos?

I haven't seen anything open source that comes close to Lightroom, even if you only consider LR versions from ten years ago. Although LR used to have the habit of getting really slow with larger libraries, it mostly just works and doesn't get in the way, while stuff like darktable is just... weird. Darktable has similar issues to GIMP, as in, that it hypothetically has a lot of features, but the usability is pretty p…

Very sad, but true. I’m still using LR6. Even though the map view doesn’t work any more and it cannot handle anything shot with my phone it is still the best option.

I wonder why the state of open source alternatives is so sad and what can be done to improve the situation.

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by tomc1985 » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:20 AM UTC

notyourday wrote: post #32

tomc1985 wrote: post #28

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You can do multithreaded without client-server or multiprocess

And crash in the most spectacular way.

I mean, if you're a bad programmer, sure. But we've had multi-core systems for decades at this point, one should know at least basic MT techniques, or, short of that, not to fuck with resources cross-thread unless you know what you're doing

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by aorth » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:43 AM UTC

lakeWater wrote: post #65

mceachen wrote: post #59

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It's a dubious default, though. Why muck with tags from originals when you don't have to?

Not really a default. When you start up Digikam for the first time a prompt asks if you would like information saved to the files or not. If you select no information is stored in a local Digikam DB.

Can confirm: just installed digikam 7.0 and it asked me if I want to store information in photo metadata. I said no...

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by agumonkey » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:45 AM UTC

blendergeek wrote: post #71

agumonkey wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never thought of people with facial agnosia.. someone make an app !

According to Wikipedia it is called prosopagnosia [1]. I have never been formally diagnosed, but I cannot even recognize the faces of my own family members to save my life. Having software that sorts faces will be great. Given that I only use open source software, I am quite excited for this new release. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia

yeah I knew there was a proper term I just couldn't bother digging again.

Do you think a software aiding you into recognizing would help your life ? or are you fine with that condition now ?

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by takeda » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM UTC

formerly_proven wrote: post #63

caseyf7 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is considered the best DAM (digital asset manager) for photos?

I haven't seen anything open source that comes close to Lightroom, even if you only consider LR versions from ten years ago. Although LR used to have the habit of getting really slow with larger libraries, it mostly just works and doesn't get in the way, while stuff like darktable is just... weird. Darktable has similar issues to GIMP, as in, that it hypothetically has a lot of features, but the usability is pretty p…

How about RawTherapee? How does it stack against darktable and LR?

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by takeda » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:20 AM UTC

blendergeek wrote: post #71

agumonkey wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never thought of people with facial agnosia.. someone make an app !

According to Wikipedia it is called prosopagnosia [1]. I have never been formally diagnosed, but I cannot even recognize the faces of my own family members to save my life. Having software that sorts faces will be great. Given that I only use open source software, I am quite excited for this new release. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia

> I have never been formally diagnosed, but I cannot even recognize the faces of my own family members to save my life.

And I thought I had this disease. I think root of my issue most likely is that my brain is assuming that most people I see on the street or during parties I will never see again so it immediately forgets faces and names and only starts remembering when I encounter them few times.

I would imagine the most famous people who were diagnosed with prosopagnosia probably have something closer to what I have than you.

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by toredash » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:22 AM UTC

black_puppydog wrote: post #6

virtualmic wrote: post #5

Sorry for somewhat unrelated query: is Digikam a replacement for Darktable? If not what's a good workflow between the two? I am a hobbyist photo taker and have only recently started using Darktable and really enjoy using it. However, it isn't a very efficient photo manager in my opinion (I may very well be missing something).

I would say they're complementary. Digikam is more of an all-around organizer and has lots of import/export stuff, tagging, and now good face recognition too apparently (the old one was based on classic Haar cascades). Darktable is for selecting a series of shots, going through them, developing the ones you want to keep.

Would you say I replaces iPhoto/Photos on Mac?

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by takeda » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:23 AM UTC

jhoechtl wrote: post #7

KDE software is so great (digiKam, Kdenlive, Kate, Krita) unfortunately the KDE environment compared to Gnome is just so bug-ridden, especially when it comes to multi-monitoring, wayland-support and scaling. Gnome shines in these respecst. I wish thebest of both worlds!

I stopped using Ubuntu 10 years ago, because I couldn't stand how buggy it was, but later I realized it was mostly GNOME. It's interesting how things turned around.

Edit: looking at other responses it seems that this still holds true, perhaps it's just Wayland support that's buggy, because it is new.

Re: Digikam 7.0: Open-source photo management

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Post by tuxcall » Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:24 AM UTC

formerly_proven wrote: post #63

caseyf7 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is considered the best DAM (digital asset manager) for photos?

I haven't seen anything open source that comes close to Lightroom, even if you only consider LR versions from ten years ago. Although LR used to have the habit of getting really slow with larger libraries, it mostly just works and doesn't get in the way, while stuff like darktable is just... weird. Darktable has similar issues to GIMP, as in, that it hypothetically has a lot of features, but the usability is pretty p…

Lightroom classic is good, the new one is complete trash as far as UI and performance goes, same with all other new Adobe products. Illustrator, Photoshop. I guess they moved to web tech on the desktop, too.