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Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by forensic » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 7:26 AM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #122

I doubt that even a video of Parsons raping small children would affect their sales. As long as they are slightly cheaper than other registrars and offer the same functionality, they will always have customers. People don't vote with their wallets, and have very short memories anyway. (DNS is something I consider too important to delegate to the lowest bidder, but I am apparently a minority.)

It's strange that people will pay $5 for a cup of Starbucks for the convenience and atmosphere, but insist on saving $3/year by going with the most obnoxious DNS registrar.

You couldn't pay me enough to have to put up with the GoDaddy bullshit. I have no idea why anyone does. It basically costs nothing extra to choose a registrar that respects you and provides a non-ridiculous interface.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by scythe » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 7:46 AM UTC

alexqgb wrote: post #271

Travis wrote: post #263

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Seems to me like it would be much more reasonable to blame the poachers and the systems that allow poaching versus one man who legally killed an animal. An animal that was going to be destroyed anyways. In my opinion, Bob Parsons did nothing wrong, even if I wouldn't have posted a video about it. Heck, I also wouldn't have killed the animal. But to attempt to blame him to poaching and historical racism (the great whi…

There's nothing reasonable about blaming one agent instead of another when it's their partnership that's doing the damage. Indeed, and in a very small way, advocacy for this kind of buck-passing you makes you part of the problem, not the solution. The problems of trophy hunting, poaching, black-market animal parts, and wholesale extinction are all connected. They're all part of an outlook that reflexively sees wildli…

Even the Republicans don't grease their slopes this much.

One guy killing one elephant for the sake of a minor and frankly uninteresting publicity stunt (and this guy being part of a small minority of company owners capable of doing this, since shareholders would never approve) does not ipso facto lead to a bunch of rich sport-hunters decimating the wildlife population of Africa as a revival of some sort of primal hunting instinct. That's absolutely absurd. I seem to recall this show back in the day called the "Crocodile Hunter" featuring the contest of a human with an endangered species in waaaaay more glorified terms than this.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by ars » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 7:51 AM UTC

Tichy wrote: post #294

ars wrote: post #256

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Do they even have electrical service in that village - and more specifically in some distant field?

I don't think electricity is needed, just some wall or burrow. Or even just some trees?

Wood is in very short supply in that part of the world. And building a wall strong enough to stop an elephant, and big (long) enough to cover a farm is really really hard without power tools.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by jonhendry » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 7:57 AM UTC

mhd wrote: post #88

dpcan wrote: post #63

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Thank you. Agreed. He fed a village (or more), saved the crop, and it looks like the people there find this to be a noble act. Our U.S. grocery stores have stock piles of meat stacked in open refrigerators, butchered behind closed doors. Animals are fed and bred to be slaughtered so we can have a juicy burger and fries. Out of sight out of mind I guess. Now... MAYBE the CEO of a hugely popular brand should not have p…

While I agree that this certainly isn't the worst action of a CEO ever (nor this year or probably this day), I can understand the outrage a bit. First of all, controlling your public image is a good idea, most of the time. Unless you want to go totally over the top and take it too a Donal Trump level. Hunting probably belongs in the same class as politics, religion and sexuality: Don't talk about it too much. Second,…

And it's supporting the government of Zimbabwe, some of the worst on the continent.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by jonhendry » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 7:59 AM UTC

bpodgursky wrote: post #161

Tichy wrote: post #35

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He explained it - it gives an incentive for marking more elephants as "problem elephants" than needed. I wonder if a couple of fence (electric) might be a better solution than shooting the elephant. And all I saw in the video was a couple of square meters of trampled grass. I wonder what animal court in the world would give the death sentence for that.

It might look just like trampled grass, to you, but it's Sorghum ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorghum ) which a subsistence farmer was growing so he could feed himself, and to him it was the difference between eating and starving. It's ridiculous to glibly dismiss the farmer's worries about STARVING because you didn't see much damage in the video. And do you really think a poor village in remote Zimbabwe is going t…

Zimbabwe used to be a freakin' breadbasket before Mugabe wrecked it.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by scythe » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 8:11 AM UTC

tomelders wrote: post #135

powertower wrote: post #104

Let's see who this outrage is coming from: 1) Someone who has never gone hungry for a single day in his/her life. 2) Someone who has consumed 100s of chickens, many cattle, and many other animals so far... Most of which have been literally tortured all their lives. 3) Someone who has never gone to Africa to help, but sits around all day posting his/her opinion on how things there (and everywhere else in the world) sh…

oh screw off. He killed an elephant, an endangered animal, for fun. People should be outraged at that. So what if people "eat" meat, or haven't faced poverty or even been outside of their own town, let alone country. That doesn't mean they don't have a right to an opinion or to express it, unless of course that opinion is that other people shouldn't be allowed to have their own opinions... which is what you've basica…

>He killed an elephant [...] People should be outraged at that.

Few sentences later:

> [...] That doesn't mean they don't have a right to an opinion [...]

Pick one.

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Post by Figs » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 8:31 AM UTC

erreon wrote: post #181

StavrosK wrote: post #80

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> I'm certainly not moving my domains over this. Me neither. I'm moving my domains because this reminded me of the silent, seething rage I have for Bob Parson's face. When I go to a site that registers and manages domains, I don't want to see your face. I also don't want to see ads about how great your company is. When I buy a domain, I don't want to wade through five pages of bullshit you put up in the hopes that I…

Just out of curiosity where are you going to move your domains? I own just over 30 domains all at GoDaddy and I'd move them over the massive amounts of cross selling and insanely cluttered UI.

I've had good experiences with Hover.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by tomelders » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 8:51 AM UTC

scythe wrote: post #306

tomelders wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

oh screw off. He killed an elephant, an endangered animal, for fun. People should be outraged at that. So what if people "eat" meat, or haven't faced poverty or even been outside of their own town, let alone country. That doesn't mean they don't have a right to an opinion or to express it, unless of course that opinion is that other people shouldn't be allowed to have their own opinions... which is what you've basica…

>He killed an elephant [...] People should be outraged at that. Few sentences later: > [...] That doesn't mean they don't have a right to an opinion [...] Pick one.

I don't follow your point...?

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by Tichy » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 9:02 AM UTC

ars wrote: post #303

Tichy wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think electricity is needed, just some wall or burrow. Or even just some trees?

Wood is in very short supply in that part of the world. And building a wall strong enough to stop an elephant, and big (long) enough to cover a farm is really really hard without power tools.

Killing an elephant without power tools is really hard, too, yet they managed it easily.

Even if your arguments are correct that the villagers are so poor that they have no choice (which I doubt), it all crumbles down when the rich hunters come into play. Surely they have enough money and tools to erect a wall.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Post by alexqgb » Fri, Apr 01, 2011, 9:09 AM UTC

Tyrant505 wrote: post #295

Hi All, Having been involved in wildlife conservation for nearly three and half a decades and trying to address human-elephant conflicts for nearly 16 years what I can say in all honesty is that elephant control is a double-edged sword. There are no utopian answers or solutions to these issues either. When it comes to human-elephant conflicts unlike in the proverbial biblical story where the lion and the lamb lied do…

Hi Ravi,

You seem like a well-meaning guy, but this line of yours is total nonsense.

"Western colonization has destroyed traditional African life to such an extent that they are now living in-limbo where they are neither, westernized or Africanized and have lost their connections to their own environment and nature. These are some of the repercussions for the damage that has been done to them. Most of them live hand to mouth - only caring about their daily survival"

For the record, starvation simply wasn't an issue under colonial rule. There were plenty of other problems, to be sure, but getting enough food wasn't one of them. Nor was there any problem with farming in general. Indeed, Rhodesia (as it was then known) boasted some of the most productive farms in Africa, which was no small feat, given that the land itself is a high and rocky plateau, and not a lush, agricultural wonderland.

The rampant starvation is the singular product of Robert Mugabe, who has been in power since 1980. Unlike the white farmers, he's actually responsible for honest-to-god genocide (aimed at the Matabele tribe, who live in the southern part of the country.) And by 'genocide', I mean murdering 10,000 men and throwing the bodies down empty mineshafts. Also, all that hunger? Yeah, it wasn't just the product of gross incompetence. Some of that was a matter of policy - literally starving his political opponents into submission.

Seriously, Ravi, are you honestly not aware that this guy is one of the nastiest dictators alive today? Do you not understand that he's managed to turn one of the most prosperous sub-Saharan countries into one of the world's severest basket-cases. How can you talk at length about the situation in Zimbabwe without even MENTIONING Mugabe? That's like talking about The Great Leap Forward while ignoring Mao Tse-Tung.

It's just ridiculous.