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Re: Noprocrast (2010)

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Post by TeMPOraL »

saagarjha wrote: post #11

Hacker News also has a noprocrast feature that’s designed to keep you away from the site for a while if you’ve been using the site for too long. It’s a little buggy with how it does detection, though, so I have it turned off.

I don't think it's buggy, but it's probably too simple. From my observation, it just starts the counter on any HTTP request (with appropriate session data in it, of course). This means if you have HN open on a mobile phone and/or you have lots of tabs, there may be spurious reloads happening even when you're not looking at the page - all of which will start the noprocrast timer.

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Post by bgutierrez »

Apocryphon wrote: post #37

I don’t know if the OP is even on Facebook, but I it noteworthy that it’s not on their list of sample blocked sites. I don’t find FB to be addictive either, unlike a lot of people. Usually when I check it, I find myself a quick skim of notifications and the newsfeed to be sufficient, really just a minute or two a day. It runs counter to the popular narrative of Facebook addiction. Anyone else feel that way? I wonder…

On Facebook, most of the friends and family I used to know have been reduced to the memes and shares that flow through them.

Twitter, on the other hand, will have me doomscrolling every single time.

Re: Noprocrast (2010)

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Post by ISL »

smegma2 wrote: post #40
ISL wrote: post #20

Thanks for the catalyst to re-enable my /etc/hosts approach to simplifying my life. I'm surprised to see that adding: 127.0.0.1 youtube.com www.youtube.com to /etc/hosts doesn't seem to block youtube, but every other line I added blocked/routed as expected. Is there something special about youtube and chromium?

Yes, some sites are more resilient somehow. I experience the same thing with twitter. You could try flushing your dns cache but IIRC that didn't even work for me.

It has now started blocking correctly. Must have needed something to get flushed.

Back to it.

  $ noprocrast.sh

Re: Noprocrast (2010)

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Post by aeruder »

ISL wrote: post #20

Thanks for the catalyst to re-enable my /etc/hosts approach to simplifying my life. I'm surprised to see that adding: 127.0.0.1 youtube.com www.youtube.com to /etc/hosts doesn't seem to block youtube, but every other line I added blocked/routed as expected. Is there something special about youtube and chromium?

IPV6 can cause some issues around this because browsers will typically do an IPV4 and IPV6 lookup in parallel. Try adding a

    ::1 youtube.com www.youtube.com
also.

Re: Noprocrast (2010)

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Post by fbelzile »

pandatigox wrote: post #18

There are also the apps, Self Control available for MacOS[1] and Cold Turkey[2], which is an universal app. [1]: https://selfcontrolapp.com/ [2]: http://getcoldturkey.com/

Maker of Cold Turkey here, thanks for sharing it! If anyone has questions about the app, let me know :)

Re: Noprocrast (2010)

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Post by [deleted] »

JadeNB wrote: post #38
AndrewOMartin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did a combination of this strategy and the one in the article. I changed my hosts file, then changed my root password to something with ~20 characters, then I gave the password to my wife (coworker would have also worked) and told them not to let me have it before 6pm. In cases I need to install something I just had to convince them of the necessity. The human element really worked wonders compared to a poorly tech…

> coworker would have also worked I think some consideration of the social aspect here is required. I agree that part of a marriage is agreeing to help one another in these small accountabilities, but, if a random coworker tried to impose this on me, I would not appreciate even the small imposition on my time. It's not, and shouldn't be, my job to help a random coworker stop procrastinating. … But maybe you meant "a…

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Re: Noprocrast (2010)

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Post by zarkov99 »

Apocryphon wrote: post #37

I don’t know if the OP is even on Facebook, but I it noteworthy that it’s not on their list of sample blocked sites. I don’t find FB to be addictive either, unlike a lot of people. Usually when I check it, I find myself a quick skim of notifications and the newsfeed to be sufficient, really just a minute or two a day. It runs counter to the popular narrative of Facebook addiction. Anyone else feel that way? I wonder…

yes, but it all changes the moment one posts something, no matter how inane. Then narcissism makes it almost impossible to stop checking it.

Re: Noprocrast (2010)

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Post by ashton314 »

This is great. I might start using this.

I really appreciate that HN has a noprocrast tool. I’ve also used Apple’s Screen Time feature to help me break away from distractions. While I feel such tools are crutches for good self-control, I am not yet disciplined enough to not need them some times.

Facebook claims to care about its users. I think that’s hogwash. If FB actually cared I think they would have settings to enforce limits on engaging with their platform. But of course they have no incentive to do that because it cuts into their revenue stream. Apple has little problem putting limit tools in place because they get money just when you buy the device—not necessarily every time you use it.

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