Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

psymposia.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 393 posts

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#81

Post by ElectricNoodle »

jowsie wrote: post #73
exdsq wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK we had an act introduced to combat legal highs by making essentially everything illegal and then legalising products, rather than trying to ban legal highs as they were discovered. https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2015/05/27/the-government-j...

Despite this 1P-LSD is still being sold in the UK in a supposedly legal way. It's sold as micro dosing pills that are low enough dose to not produce any psychedelic effects if you just take one. There's nothing stopping you from taking 10, though. (I have no idea if this supposed workaround would actually be seen as legal if taken to court, but the company has been active and selling in the UK for over a year now, th…

Looks like they ship from the Netherlands.

Always worrying ordering anything from there although I've never had any issues.

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#82

Post by corobo »

mallomarmeasle wrote: post #57
mlonkibjuyhv wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if Ergotamine could be an Amine from Ergot. Should probably be abbreviated EA in that case.

ET = ergotamine tartarate, the typical salt

It's been a while since I've done chemistry- does typical mean something in the context of chemistry?

If someone asked me what the typical salt was I'd say table salt

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#84

Post by gallexme »

brodo wrote: post #62
throwaway9955 wrote: post #27

For those that want LSD but not have to be a criminal I recommend trying 1-P LSD which has the functional class of LSD without being illegal in most countries, happy tripping. If you're on the wall about trying it micro dose and work your way up to something functional.

It’s illegal in Germany since last year I think. But there is a new one 1P-a LSD (or something like that) which is supposed to be legal.

1cP-LSD

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#85

Post by gallexme »

Nursie wrote: post #56
dr_dshiv wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the effect exactly the same or somewhat different?

It was thought to be a pro-drug for LSD, but I'm not sure that's been proven. AL-LAD has also been spotted in recent years.

AL and ETH n a bunch more (mipla ...) are all very different to lsd, they only show chemical similarities, but so do melatonin and dmt :)

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#86

Post by gallexme »

corobo wrote: post #82
mallomarmeasle wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ET = ergotamine tartarate, the typical salt

It's been a while since I've done chemistry- does typical mean something in the context of chemistry? If someone asked me what the typical salt was I'd say table salt

Typical cause that's the end result of most commonly used mass synthesis

Lsd is also exclusively sold as tartrate

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#87

Post by masklinn »

smabie wrote: post #8

For some reasons the feds in the 90s were unusually interested in prosecuting psychedelics. I'm of the opinion that all drugs should be legal, but even if I wasn't, I think I would still question why LSD manufacturers were getting such long sentences around that time. Never really made sense to me.

> For some reasons the feds in the 90s were unusually interested in prosecuting psychedelics.

Psychedelics = hippies = anti-war left.

A well-known and somewhat similar "unusual interest" was in prosecuting crack versus coke.

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#88

Post by Retric »

ketzu wrote: post #45
mindfulhack wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more acceptable and state-sanctioned to sell drugs that kill people while keeping them subdued, than ones that keep them alive and open their minds. I don't want to sound like a crazy 'conspiracy theorist' or a 'hippie', but I don't know to distill this sad and truthful statement more simply than that.

The reasons why tobacco and alcohol are legal are mostly historical and they are basically the only exceptions. There are many drugs that kill people but keep them subdued that are illegal. It seems to me that is not the reason for which are legal and which ones are not.

I agree with tobacco. However, alcohol is legal in part because it’s easy to make. Even prisoners often start making alcohol let alone the general public.

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#89

Post by wefarrell »

non-entity wrote: post #26

Jesus 2 life sentences for manufacturing LSD? Wonder what people were getting for drugs that actually kill people.

Three years probation and community service for the Purdue Pharma execs that were convicted for distributing oxycontin to pill mills.

Re: LSD chemist William Pickard to be released from prison

#90

Post by gverrilla »

tutfbhuf wrote: post #50
zelly wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To make an example out of them and discourage others, prevent a cottage industry from forming. LSD manufacturing scales immensely. One lone wolf could create enough LSD to serve the whole United States demand, maybe even the global demand. LSD is also harder to manufacture. You generally need at least a MS degree and lab experience. The people who fit that profile tend to think about the future enough to respond to t…

Are the mexican drug cartels able to manufacture LSD in scale and export cross-border?

demand for lsd is low nowadays. doesn't compare too cannabis or cocaine or mdma. it's not a very good party drug lmao
Post reply on HN