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Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

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Seems an appropriate time to post my favourite piece on news addiction by Charles Simic in the NYRB.

"I’m having trouble deciding whether I understand the world better now that I’m in my seventies than I did when I was younger, or whether I’m becoming more and more clueless every day. The truth is somewhere in between, I suspect, but that doesn’t make me rest any easier at night. Like others growing old, I had expected that after everything I had lived through and learned in my life, I would attain a state of Olympian calm and would regard the news of the day with amusement, like a clip from a bad old movie I had seen far too many times. It hasn’t happened to me yet. My late father, in the final year of his life, claimed that he finally found that long-sought serenity by no longer reading the papers and watching television. Even then, and I was thirty years younger than he, I knew what he meant. What devotees of sadomasochism do to their bodies is nothing compared to the torments that those addicted to the news and political commentary inflict on their minds almost every hour of the day."

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2011/12/05/goodbye-serenity/

Edit: Charles Simic is a Serbian-American poet who lived through WWII and saw some really grisly things, some described briefly in the article, hence "after everything I had lived through and learned in my life..."

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

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post #4

My understanding is it’s the little thrill your brain gets from the possibility of finding something super interesting. That’s the addicting piece. The gambling piece of it. I read (or more likely heard on a podcast) about an experiment with mice and a food dispensing button. In one case, the button reliably dispensed food every time it was pressed. In the other case, sometimes the button wouldn’t work. The mice with…

Yes. I like this. Now, how to resolve it?

Hard, unwavering discipline. Resolve to stop reading it, either entirely or outside of rigid conditions (eg, no more than N minutes at X in the morning and Y at night). Then do so.

Some people have good luck modifying their network configs to enforce this when their willpower or habits are weak.

Fortunately there isn't a physical component to the addiction so it is safe to go cold turkey. Usually after a few days or weeks it gets easier but if you slip up it is very easy to fall back into old habits.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

#23
Part of it is surely fear of missing out, in this case fear that everyone else will know something you don't. Exactly what we fear of missing out on probably varies a lot from person to person. I don't care all all about the football results, but many people do, as it's a staple of their conversation in their social sphere.

For the HN crowd, we survive and thrive on what we know. We're in an industry that moves rapidly, and we perceive that successful people thrive on knowing more, or knowing first. Of course that's only partly true. Successful people know just enough, and then actually get the job done. Knowing where to draw the line between reading about what others have done and doing stuff ourselves is really hard. It's always easier to read about what others have done, and it feels productive, but past a certain point it really isn't.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I like this. Now, how to resolve it?

In the words of Morrissey: Stop reading the news.

Why would you quote him of all people. The guy is a racist at worst and a bigot at best.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

#26
I think it might be the "new" in "news". I think our brain has an impulsivity towards novelty.

Perhaps it's hitting the reward centers of our brain that is designed to validate productive behaviour. Although as we know there's a fine line when it comes to consumption of so-called news as to wheter it is actually productive.

I guess like any addictive "substance" it can be difficult to regulate and control.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the words of Morrissey: Stop reading the news.

Why would you quote him of all people. The guy is a racist at worst and a bigot at best.

I am just one of those people who can listen to Wagner without invading Poland ...

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I like this. Now, how to resolve it?

Hard, unwavering discipline. Resolve to stop reading it, either entirely or outside of rigid conditions (eg, no more than N minutes at X in the morning and Y at night). Then do so. Some people have good luck modifying their network configs to enforce this when their willpower or habits are weak. Fortunately there isn't a physical component to the addiction so it is safe to go cold turkey. Usually after a few days or…

> eg, no more than N minutes at X in the morning and Y at night

Since this community is all about using IT tools to achieve goals:

- There are some browser extensions that can do this, e.g. lock you out of Facebook, Reddit or $newswebsite after X minutes of usage.

- HN itself has the "noprocrast" setting in the user profile which I hear works similarly.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

#29
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the words of Morrissey: Stop reading the news.

Why would you quote him of all people. The guy is a racist at worst and a bigot at best.

He is pretty horrible. An example of the Everyone Who Likes Music I Do Must Be A Good Person fallacy I held to when I was younger.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me? why is “news” so addictive?

#30
post #4

My understanding is it’s the little thrill your brain gets from the possibility of finding something super interesting. That’s the addicting piece. The gambling piece of it. I read (or more likely heard on a podcast) about an experiment with mice and a food dispensing button. In one case, the button reliably dispensed food every time it was pressed. In the other case, sometimes the button wouldn’t work. The mice with…

Although I think I get the underlying feeling you're trying to define, I'm not sure about the analogy of the experiment on mice. That feels more like it's about being in the presence of an unreliable food source, where it makes sense to stock up while food is available to get you through the lean times. There's obviously an overcompensation there, but evolutionarily-derived mechanisms aren't particularly precise. The…

It's also the method they use to train military working dogs. Find dogs with a huge ball chasing instinct but only reward occasionally and randomly. The dog will work so damn hard to get that ball toss.

Poker machines are built the same, as are the recently banned loot boxes in video games.

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