Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 204 times, shame on me. https://killedbygoogle.com/
"companies don't try new things" - HN "Google kills products" - HN 99% of the people here would gladly work at Google. But what's the next best thing .. downplay the company you couldn't get into :) Carry on !
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Re: Buy on Google is now open and commission-free
#222This doesn't seem to solve the main problem I have with Amazon: even when I know exactly what I want, it's impossible to find. Amazon hides the thing you want behind the items they want you to buy instead, and they allow fakes and spammers to flourish. They never have the right aspects in their search filters, either. Looks like Google is the same way. I can't find an A19 LED light bulb with 2700K color temperature a…
If I search for Pixel 3 case on Amazon, it will also return Pixel 3 XL cases. If I search for 1440p IPS monitor, it will mix in some monitors that aren't 1440p, and some that aren't IPS. I'm not sure if it's because they don't want to solve the problem, because they don't care, or because somehow having customers need to spend more time on Amazon to research their purchases perversely leads to people spending more ti…
note, I have never implemented search but suspect it's hard problem.
Still Amazon's search is pretty awful. I've found adding something in the category I want to my cart gets me better results than being on the item itself. In other words I might search for "wrench" and it shows me 50 items of which 2 are remotely close the the type of wrench I'm looking for. I click one, get new page for that product and below it shows other wrenches but they aren't remotely like the one the page is for. So I add it to my cart and suddenly it suggests a bunch of stuff that is actually close to what I wanted.
I also don't understand the pitching me things I already bought. I get pitching me disposables I already bought. I don't get pitching me a monitor or soldering iron or another mouse or keyboard. I'd think either via statistical analysis or via manual tagging they could figure out what items are more likely to be purchased again and not recommend another PS4 just after I bought a PS4? But who knows. It could be this is harder than it sounds or it could also be they suck at search or haven't gotten around to it yet or ...
Re: Buy on Google is now open and commission-free
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I search for Pixel 3 case on Amazon, it will also return Pixel 3 XL cases. If I search for 1440p IPS monitor, it will mix in some monitors that aren't 1440p, and some that aren't IPS. I'm not sure if it's because they don't want to solve the problem, because they don't care, or because somehow having customers need to spend more time on Amazon to research their purchases perversely leads to people spending more ti…
Another possibility is search is hard. If all they returned is things with "Pixel 3" well, that includes "Pixel 3 XL". Ok so they look for exact string "Pixel 3". Now nothing matches like "Red Pixel 3 Case" note, I have never implemented search but suspect it's hard problem. Still Amazon's search is pretty awful. I've found adding something in the category I want to my cart gets me better results than being on the it…
Re: Buy on Google is now open and commission-free
#224This doesn't seem to solve the main problem I have with Amazon: even when I know exactly what I want, it's impossible to find. Amazon hides the thing you want behind the items they want you to buy instead, and they allow fakes and spammers to flourish. They never have the right aspects in their search filters, either. Looks like Google is the same way. I can't find an A19 LED light bulb with 2700K color temperature a…
You would assume that Amazon allows you to properly slice and dice their product catalog but i think that is something we do but the avg person doesn't.
When i need something and i know exactly what it is, i will search for it on amazon and other retailers to find a good price, most of the time with comparision services.
If i don't now exactly what im looking for i will research the market: What is a common producer/brand, who is known for good quality, what variations exists, what was the model a year before, whats the price difference, whats the feature difference. I don't think thats the normal behaviour.
People like to go to electronic markets to 'browse' and get advice.
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#225Sounds noble but if google are at the helm then that's the opposite of what I want. I'm not Amazons biggest fan but Google are the last people on earth I'd want to have my purchase history. Yeah they look all corporate good with their no commission / seller first attitude but it's just another data harvesting excersize & I'd rather not buy at all than buy through Google for 'free'.
If you use google for email they already have your order history...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21918595 , https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Unless you pay in person with cash, your purchase data will be brokered.
I still want a way to pay with "cash" over the internet, e.g. a prepaid card which I can buy with cash and isn't tied to any person's name or address.
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#227They need to solve shipping. Partner with Uber (or hey, Waymo) to pick up and drop off packages from shops to consumers. An alternate model would be to make search good enough let consumers find stores within a radius of their current location selling X, and price compare them. E.g. I need a widget - stores a, b and c are selling it. Store a is $14.99 and 5 miles away, store b is $8.99 and 15 miles away, store c is $…
"Solve shipping"... Shipping packages is a solved problem in many countries. You order something, before the shipping company picks up the orders for today at the sell, anywhere from 17:00 to 22:00. It shows up at your door the next day or a pickup point of your choosing.
Whenever you want to set up a shop and sell over internet, you would reach out to a shipping company and arrange a pickup time for your orders. The company truck visits every day at a specified time, then pick up that days orders for shipping.
Re: Buy on Google is now open and commission-free
#228They need to solve shipping. Partner with Uber (or hey, Waymo) to pick up and drop off packages from shops to consumers. An alternate model would be to make search good enough let consumers find stores within a radius of their current location selling X, and price compare them. E.g. I need a widget - stores a, b and c are selling it. Store a is $14.99 and 5 miles away, store b is $8.99 and 15 miles away, store c is $…
"Solve shipping"... Shipping packages is a solved problem in many countries. You order something, before the shipping company picks up the orders for today at the sell, anywhere from 17:00 to 22:00. It shows up at your door the next day or a pickup point of your choosing.
To achieve convenience requires either building out a logistics infrastructure on the scale of Amazon, which is clearly a business Google doesn't want to be in, or to approach the problem from the opposite direction. Brick and mortar retail is declining, especially post-pandemic (but also pre); that said, there is already an infrastructure that exists transfers goods to retail locations - it's just spread over 10,000 companies rather than 1. However, if you can write software to better utilize that infrastructure so that you allow consumers to find items that are already physically close to them, and ship using either "last mile" crowdsourcing (and eventually auto-driving vehicles), or at least direct consumers to where the items are so that they can travel less than 30 minutes and get _the_ item they want, then you can come up with a credible anti-Amazon alliance.
Example: I want to buy a sun shade for a pergola. There are probably 10 stores within 20 miles of me that carry them, but I have no idea ahead of time the brands, the price, the color, the size, etc. I could spend an hour calling the stores, and have irritated minimum wage cashiers do inventory searches for me an attempt to answer my questions. Alternately I can go on Amazon, make a purchase, and have it shipped in 2 days from a warehouse 900 miles away from me.
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"companies don't try new things" - HN "Google kills products" - HN 99% of the people here would gladly work at Google. But what's the next best thing .. downplay the company you couldn't get into :) Carry on !
More like 90%. But the bottom 90%. The kind with textbook knowledge who fail at shipping competitive technology products.
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More like 90%. But the bottom 90%. The kind with textbook knowledge who fail at shipping competitive technology products.
Lol okay ? Literally everything you touched on the Internet today probably used Google technology. Let me see your amazing startup or business.