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Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by DanielBMarkham »

edw519 wrote: post #100
DanielBMarkham wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's stop the piling on of edw, okay? Gee -- he just questioned the morality of pot as an aide in student studies. I thought it was funny -- reminded me of a cranky old guy saying "Dang kids today! Toking up and killing brain cells" Note I'm a libertarian and don't think that government has any business with what I choose to ingest. But heck, if you want to post an article on how good it is to toke up for your schoo…

Thanks Daniel (I think). he just questioned the morality of pot as an aide in student studies No I didn't. I challenged the appropriateness of a #1 hn post from a student who uses drugs to get by and then brags about it. The reaction seems very mob-like. I didn't know what to expect, but this was no surprise. Since "net" scores are the only thing that show, I'm curious how many up votes and down votes there were. Eve…

You're welcome : )

I voted you up just based on all the crowd-voting going on.

Sorry about misrepresenting your post. It had been a while since you posted it, and it's gone now.

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by dejb »

dgabriel wrote: post #66

For me, it just makes me paranoid, sleepy, or sick, which are three good reasons to avoid it. I pass no judgment on others, though. It's clearly a substance that should be legal, whereas tobacco should be banned.

I was just about to vote you up then I saw the tobacco should be banned. As an ex-smoker (tobacco) I am against any smoking happening near me but banning it is not the answer.

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Post by pmorici »

evgen wrote: post #65
astine wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tobacco is a local industry. Marijuana is not. The US was built with the money from Tobacco, not Marijuana. So we can't criminalize Tobacco any more than Columbia can do away with cocaine or Afghanistan can out opium. Personally, I think that marijuana use is probably harmful, as is most drug use, but isn't worth the cost in criminalizing it.

> Tobacco is a local industry. Marijuana is not. You are kidding, right? Marijuana cultivation is one of the largest cash crops in the US (there is some question as to whether or not it is the largest, but there is no disputing the fact that it is in the top five.) > The US was built with the money from Tobacco, not Marijuana. The US was built with money from tobacco, sugar, and slavery. Not really a great mix for us…

"when you see period documents that talk about "hemp""

Good point I read some place that the reason people originally wanted to out law marijuana was in order to make it illegal to grow hemp which was competing with their cotton crop. So really this all just started out as a government enforced monopoly to please some corporate fat cats.

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by dejb »

OK if we are talking about anecdotal evidence then how about a colleague of mine who smoked pot every day while doing his PHD. He spent several years doing very little work and then ended up having a major psychotic episode. Without people to support you this sort of thing could entirely derail your life. Fortunately he managed to complete the PHD only after getting off the pot.

Having known a number of people who have smoked daily for periods in their lives and suffered from mental health issues, I have no doubts that heavy pot use contributes to mental health problems.

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Post by rms »

rms wrote: post #73
jey wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems to be accurate, but I've never been able to find any scientific explanation for the difference in effect. I've heard it attributed to the different ratios of THC to CBD, but I can't find any articles/papers to confirm this.

There are also a number of analogs of THC present such as THC-V which is 500 times stronger than THC. http://designer-drugs.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/t...

and for anyone with a chemistry background reading the above, be warned that ordering olivetol is a quick way to get a DEA agent to show up at your door

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by ken »

petercooper wrote: post #10

Before anyone starts taking this guy seriously, consider the impact that drug use could have on your life in terms of the social effects rather than the drug itself. Being arrested for possession (or, worse, dealing) could invalidate you from easy worldwide travel (merely having been arrested - let alone charged - invalidates you from many visa waiver programs), numerous professions, and delay certain opportunities.…

I see many of the most famous, successful people in business, politics, law, entertainment, education, and other fields have been arrested, done drugs, or both. In fact, I'm having trouble thinking of highly successful people who have never been in either category.

How are you going to take the necessary business risks to be the next Bill Gates or Richard Branson or Steve Jobs (or U.S. President or genre-creating musician or ...), if you can't take a small personal risk? There may be a benefit to "staying clean", but it appears to be dwarfed by the ability to take calculated risks.

If you want to abstain for the sake of abstention and staying out of jail, then by all means do so. But if you think smoking cannabis is going to sink your career when you start becoming successful, I see no indication of that.

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by 0x44 »

dejb wrote: post #104

OK if we are talking about anecdotal evidence then how about a colleague of mine who smoked pot every day while doing his PHD. He spent several years doing very little work and then ended up having a major psychotic episode. Without people to support you this sort of thing could entirely derail your life. Fortunately he managed to complete the PHD only after getting off the pot. Having known a number of people who ha…

I've never used an illegal drug, but the plural of anecdote is not data.

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by hollerith »

LPTS wrote: post #94
edw519 wrote: post #11

Oh you poor baby! You have trouble reading and writing and 'rithmetic, so you need a little chemical help. You pussy. Get out of cocoon, er I mean school, get a real job, get married. have a couple of kids, get a mortgage and a couple of car payments, raise those kids without worrying too much about the evils around them, visit Mom in her nursing home, do things for others in need, and, if you have time, have a nice…

Your life sounds like it sucks because you did not use the consciousness altering properties of drugs to decide how to meet life on it's own terms and do your work here on earth. Doing drugs while you are young is a great way to avoid becoming this bitter later in life. You remind me of a slightly more evolved version of those 90 year olds who hate anyone who isn't as repressed and miserable then they are. So you mad…

edw hit a nerve, didn't he?

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by rms »

edw519 wrote: post #100
DanielBMarkham wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's stop the piling on of edw, okay? Gee -- he just questioned the morality of pot as an aide in student studies. I thought it was funny -- reminded me of a cranky old guy saying "Dang kids today! Toking up and killing brain cells" Note I'm a libertarian and don't think that government has any business with what I choose to ingest. But heck, if you want to post an article on how good it is to toke up for your schoo…

Thanks Daniel (I think). he just questioned the morality of pot as an aide in student studies No I didn't. I challenged the appropriateness of a #1 hn post from a student who uses drugs to get by and then brags about it. The reaction seems very mob-like. I didn't know what to expect, but this was no surprise. Since "net" scores are the only thing that show, I'm curious how many up votes and down votes there were. Eve…

>I challenged the appropriateness of a #1 hn post from a student who uses drugs to get by and then brags about it.

It would have been more meaningful if he was a physics or science PhD. A pot smoking liberal arts PhD is... eh. Not news.

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by aswanson »

rms wrote: post #105
rms wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are also a number of analogs of THC present such as THC-V which is 500 times stronger than THC. http://designer-drugs.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/t...

and for anyone with a chemistry background reading the above, be warned that ordering olivetol is a quick way to get a DEA agent to show up at your door

Damn it, I want my Kratom.
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