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How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#141
So it is ok to have show on cable TV where people shoot animals for fun (or our politicians doing that) and but we are disgusted of killing animal for food and protect the crops.

This is good very PR move because it hits the center of hypocrisy in wester societies: our "love" of animals.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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post #124

Let's see who this outrage is coming from: 1) Someone who has never gone hungry for a single day in his/her life. 2) Someone who has consumed 100s of chickens, many cattle, and many other animals so far... Most of which have been literally tortured all their lives. 3) Someone who has never gone to Africa to help, but sits around all day posting his/her opinion on how things there (and everywhere else in the world) sh…

Allow me to point you to these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring Not to mention that you are making an awful lot of unwarranted assumptions about the outraged people.

You are using the above as buzzwords.

Making a valid and logical declaration based on personal experiences with the society he/she lives in is not a logical fallacy.

A logical fallacy is incorrect reasoning.

An opinionated, consumption-oriented, and selfish society is not one that produces people that have:

1. Either fasted, or have gone hungry (even the povery line class has been able to eat - a lot of food is cheap and there is also government and community help).

2. Do not consume animal products.

3. Truly help others (or anyone but themselves).

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#143
post #44

What "Brand"? We ARE talking about the same company that puts out ads which double as Cinemax's 11pm lineup, right?

Slaughtering an endangered species and women in tank tops are hardly on the same level.

Absolutely, but it's not like this should be the moment when it suddenly becomes clear GoDaddy is a skeezy company run by scumbags.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#144
post #18

In the grand scheme of things, my 27 domains switched from GoDaddy won't change much from their company's perspective, but I will not continue to use them as a domain registrar because of this.

Actually, it will. What if a 1000 customers like you who own 10 domains do it at the same day? They sure HAVE to notice it. I've already transferred my domains and I'll make sure I won't buy any from GoDaddy again. GoDaddy already has one of the scammiest UIs I've ever come across (with a possible exception of, maybe, MySpace) and the recent elephant killing was the last straw!

But where to transfer to? NameCheap? 1&1?

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#145
post #92
post #50

I guess I'll be the lone discenting voice and say I don't think it's that bad. Bob Parsons has always run his company the way he wants, and he has particular freedom to do so since he has zero investors and is the sole owner. He does certain things for shock value, such as the super bowl commercials, which by the way caused outage with a completely different demographic of people. Slaughtering an elephant might offen…

While I respect your opinions in support of Parsons, I'm going to have to disagree with you on a lot of your arguments. >Bob Parsons has always run his company the way he wants, and he has particular freedom to do so since he has zero investors and is the sole owner Parsons does have the freedom to do what he likes but there are consequences to those actions. No one is questioning his freedom to do what he chooses. >…

Not sure if you read the article but Jacques specifically states there's a clear difference between a rich dude shooting the Elephant and a native Zimbabwean game warden doing it to protect his crops (which btw, there are many other ways of going about that than shooting it). The psychology behind the former doing it can be extremely powerful (and enraging) compared to the latter.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the elephant ends up dead either way. If the Zimbabwean government can monetize a practice that would otherwise cost them money (viz., protecting crops from elephants) and simultaneously a dude with excess money can get some recreational activity out of it, it seems like it's a win-win.

There obviously are some issues with this, e.g., if the government's only interest is moneymaking rather than proper wildlife husbandry, then they're incentivized short-term to sell the rights to kill every elephant around. But no one is going around complaining that there's insufficient evidence of proper husbandry here; rather, they're complaining because a big mammal that lots of us read about in storybooks as kids just got shot.

I'd be pissed if this were a case where they obviously baited the elephants or were just slaughtering the animals indiscriminately. This obviously isn't the case, though.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#146
post #79

I blame Disney. Killing an Elephant that is clearly a pest is no different than the thousands of businessmen that shoot Deer and Tahr for sport every year. Dickish move by Bob tho, he's truly testing the adage that "any publicity is good publicity".

>Killing an Elephant that is clearly a pest

from the point of view of any super-human civilization, humans are clearly pests of the planet Earth, not an intelligent civilization to have contact with.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#147
post #91

As someone who has worked with ecologists in the field on a number of wildlife projects in rural Africa, I find this to be truly repugnant. There are many ways of controlling "problem elephants" other than killing them -- in fact, killing an elephant is almost never an option. If the villagers don't have the financial resources to implement non-lethal control measures, I'm sure Bob Parsons does.

> As someone who has worked with ecologists in the field on a number of wildlife projects in rural Africa, I find this to be truly repugnant. Really? You know that the majority of ecologists support Elephant Culling (killing elephant family groups wholesale from helicopters)? > There are many ways of controlling "problem elephants" other than killing them There is an oversupply of elephants and an undersupply of spac…

I'm not an ecologist and didn't claim to be one (I'm a computer scientist), and my comment wasn't about the benefits of elephant culling. As a last resort, yes it can sometimes be necessary, but there was no indication that it was necessary in this case. I'm opposed to lethal measures when there are other ways, and my point was that Bob Parsons could easily have paid for a relocation program had he wanted to, and won a lot of goodwill for himself and (perhaps more importantly) his brand in doing so. Instead, he's alienated a lot of potential customers, even from just this thread and the 178 current upvotes of the story's title.

Let's be realistic here -- this wasn't a planned "cull", this was a once-in-a-lifetime hunt for a rich guy.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#148
post #50

I guess I'll be the lone discenting voice and say I don't think it's that bad. Bob Parsons has always run his company the way he wants, and he has particular freedom to do so since he has zero investors and is the sole owner. He does certain things for shock value, such as the super bowl commercials, which by the way caused outage with a completely different demographic of people. Slaughtering an elephant might offen…

It's not offensive to "vegetarians" – it's offensive to people who care about living beings.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#149
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slaughtering an endangered species and women in tank tops are hardly on the same level.

Absolutely, but it's not like this should be the moment when it suddenly becomes clear GoDaddy is a skeezy company run by scumbags.

No, but it's like they've been digging themselves into a hole. Then they break throw to a seemingly bottomless pit, and decide it's a good idea to jump in to see how deep it is.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

#150
post #87
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you. Agreed. He fed a village (or more), saved the crop, and it looks like the people there find this to be a noble act. Our U.S. grocery stores have stock piles of meat stacked in open refrigerators, butchered behind closed doors. Animals are fed and bred to be slaughtered so we can have a juicy burger and fries. Out of sight out of mind I guess. Now... MAYBE the CEO of a hugely popular brand should not have p…

It's not the hunting that offends me. It's the GoDaddy hats during the slaughter.

The butcher at my grocery store wears a coat with the company name on it while he grounds up my hamburger.
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