The anti-privacy EARN IT Act could change the internet as we know it
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Re: The anti-privacy EARN IT Act could change the internet as we know it
#2its a disaster in the making. it absolutely needs to be stopped
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#3previous discussions https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22earn%20it%20act%22
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#4previous discussions https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22earn%20it%20act%22
Glad you posted this but...
This is one of those multi-day, multi-faceted topics that need us to have many conversations until it's stopped.
Recall the SOPA & PIPA protests of last decade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA
There were more than a few discussions here
Re: The anti-privacy EARN IT Act could change the internet as we know it
#5previous discussions https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22earn%20it%20act%22
Glad you posted this but... This is one of those multi-day, multi-faceted topics that need us to have many conversations until it's stopped. Recall the SOPA & PIPA protests of last decade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA There were more than a few discussions here
HN doesn't really need constant repeat of political promotion. It's been discussed, if there's nothing new happening, it probably doesn't belong on HN.
Re: The anti-privacy EARN IT Act could change the internet as we know it
#6previous discussions https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22earn%20it%20act%22
Glad you posted this but... This is one of those multi-day, multi-faceted topics that need us to have many conversations until it's stopped. Recall the SOPA & PIPA protests of last decade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA There were more than a few discussions here
Requiring everyone to discuss this every few years seems like a surefire strategy to exhaust people. It normalizes the idea, if nothing else.
So the question is how do we get it so that supporting ending effective encryption is a political third rail that ends political careers? Because that seems like the only way to get this to stop coming up until it eventually passes.
Feinstein seems to be a perpetual supporter of this kind of thing. But she keeps getting voted in by CA of all places.
The full list of PIPA supporters according to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Members_of_the_U.S._Co...): Patrick Leahy (D-VT) Lamar Alexander (R-TN) Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Sherrod Brown (D-OH) Bob Casey, Jr. (D-PA) Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Thad Cochran (R-MS) Chris Coons (D-DE) Bob Corker (R-TN) Dick Durbin (D-IL) Mike Enzi (R-WY) Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) Al Franken (D-MN) Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) Lindsey Graham (R-SC) Chuck Grassley (R-IA) Withdrawn 1/18/12[11] Kay Hagan (D-NC) Johnny Isakson (R-GA) Tim Johnson (D-SD) Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) Herb Kohl (D-WI) Mary Landrieu (D-LA) Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) John McCain (R-AZ) Bob Menendez (D-NJ) Bill Nelson (D-FL) Jim Risch (R-ID) Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) Tom Udall (D-NM) Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Re: The anti-privacy EARN IT Act could change the internet as we know it
#7Just please go read the latest versions of the bill people
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/339...
A ton of companies stand to lose by this bill so it may be wise to adopt some skepticism towards all the doom and gloom.
This bill is ever evolving and they have been closing the gaps people were worried about re encryption(and now there are complaints about new issues). Are there holes that could be exploited, perhaps but a lot of them have been closed. I know it isn’t popular to say it but this isn’t turning out to be nearly as draconian as most people are making out to be.
Re: The anti-privacy EARN IT Act could change the internet as we know it
#8Just please go read the latest versions of the bill people https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/339... A ton of companies stand to lose by this bill so it may be wise to adopt some skepticism towards all the doom and gloom. This bill is ever evolving and they have been closing the gaps people were worried about re encryption(and now there are complaints about new issues). Are there holes that coul…
If it has any chance of passing, it could very much cripple the tech sector in the US and make us less competitive.
On the other side of the coin, this is not going to stop individuals from using encryption that isn't broken. It would be ugly to see what it does in commercial spaces, and to your average citizen whose data is less protected. I think it would force a knowledgeable subcommunity further into the shadows while everything else burns.
Re: The anti-privacy EARN IT Act could change the internet as we know it
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Glad you posted this but... This is one of those multi-day, multi-faceted topics that need us to have many conversations until it's stopped. Recall the SOPA & PIPA protests of last decade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA There were more than a few discussions here
Requiring everyone to discuss this every few years seems like a surefire strategy to exhaust people. It normalizes the idea, if nothing else. So the question is how do we get it so that supporting ending effective encryption is a political third rail that ends political careers? Because that seems like the only way to get this to stop coming up until it eventually passes. Feinstein seems to be a perpetual supporter o…
"Requiring everyone to discuss this every few years seems like a surefire strategy to exhaust people"
The older generation may get exhausted, but fortunately there's Eternal September at play, where newer generations constantly arrive, start to become politically aware, and have fresh energy.
In order to continue to effect change we need to continually educate and re-educate people on what's going on and why.
"Feinstein seems to be a perpetual supporter of this kind of thing. But she keeps getting voted in by CA of all places."
Yeah, I really don't get California Democrats' unwavering support for Feinstein.. but then again, they've elected quite a few Republican governors as well, which I also don't understand.
On the other hand, contrary to popular belief, California is not an overwhelmingly Democratic state... there are a fair number of Republicans in office and even when Republicans lose they often manage to get 40% or more of the vote... not the 0% or 10% that's probably in the popular imagination of what California is like.
Re: The anti-privacy EARN IT Act could change the internet as we know it
#10Just please go read the latest versions of the bill people https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/339... A ton of companies stand to lose by this bill so it may be wise to adopt some skepticism towards all the doom and gloom. This bill is ever evolving and they have been closing the gaps people were worried about re encryption(and now there are complaints about new issues). Are there holes that coul…
If it has any chance of passing, it could very much cripple the tech sector in the US and make us less competitive. On the other side of the coin, this is not going to stop individuals from using encryption that isn't broken. It would be ugly to see what it does in commercial spaces, and to your average citizen whose data is less protected. I think it would force a knowledgeable subcommunity further into the shadows…
You replied to my comment but you didn’t even read the bill.
Read the amendments, they specifically outline that the scope of this bill will not impact encryption laws (which they added specifically because of all the fear-mongering brought by the companies that stand to lose from this bill).