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Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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Re: Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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What phone to do you own that doesn’t require proprietary software? What wearable doesn’t require installing an App on your iPhone or android?

I'm currently using a Sony Xperia X running Sailfish OS but I'd like to switch to a Pinephone running Postmarket OS.

I respect that you're this motivated to remain free from the clutches of the corporate overlords - but damn, it sounds exhausting.

Re: Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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Has anybody tried to reverse engineer garmin's bluetooth protocols? I often want to buy one of their smartwatches but the idea of having to install proprietary software on my phone kind of puts me off. I'd love to write my own software but I don't have any experience doing bluetooth RE.

I tried and had some success about 5 years ago on a Fenix 2. Protocol got encrypted afterwards but looks to be still similar (I got the Fenix 3 to "work" at some point). In any case, not an easy task by any means.

The sync protocol mostly just sends all the files to the Garmin server so there is not a lot of logic locally. I no longer have any interest in the topic but if I were to restart, I'd focus on the "Explore" protocol which seems to allow upload/download of waypoints/tracks which is all that I wanted from the device in the first place.

Re: Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What phone to do you own that doesn’t require proprietary software? What wearable doesn’t require installing an App on your iPhone or android?

I'm currently using a Sony Xperia X running Sailfish OS but I'd like to switch to a Pinephone running Postmarket OS.

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Re: Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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A close relation of mine got sick back country hiking and needed to text for someone to meet at a rendezous just this week using Garmin's texting services - I hope that this doesn't last long, I'd hate to think of what would happen if he'd tried to ask for help today.

Edit: Looks like Garmin 'Explore' is still up, so maybe it'd still be OK.

Re: Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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Recently I was looking into Fish finders. Garmin has some cool tech and their maps are great. I’ll have to make sure I don’t get a connected device.

Having your gps time-out on you might be lethal. Imagine an hypothetical auto update bricking all gps devices in the group on a mountain top or the sea and relying on a compass and map if you were smart enought to bring it. Not having a gps makes many endouvers just that much more risky. Edit: made it clear it is a hypothetical scenario

Does Garmin or any other GPS vendors have auto-update? Most of my wearables require me to confirm the incoming update (scheduled at night while charging) or I have to plug it into my computer.

Re: Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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I guess I always assumed Garmin made most of their money on their aviation products, since they are so dominant and so expensive. And those are designed to rarely if ever connect to the internet. But I guess I was pretty off on that, they’re only 20%.

On a side note the graphs of their revenues per year and by category show a company that successfully branched out when their former big category, automotive, which was 80% of their revenue, began to be eaten by in car GPS and then smart phones.

Re: Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What phone to do you own that doesn’t require proprietary software? What wearable doesn’t require installing an App on your iPhone or android?

I'm currently using a Sony Xperia X running Sailfish OS but I'd like to switch to a Pinephone running Postmarket OS.

I think your mobile experience and capabilities is drastically different than 99.999% of cell phone users, I could probably put another 9 in there and still be right.

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Their products are designed to work offline. Despite the cloud being down I have full local functionality right now. (Though I can't see my history, surprised they don't cache that locally). Last year when I did a 9-day canoe trip with no cell phone reception, all of my Garmin gear worked flawlessly (wearables, navigation devices, and their offline map app). Can't say the same about my friends iWatches/fitbits or eve…

Do they? Last Garmin product I had was a Vivosmart HR: an internet connection and a Garmin connect account was required to change basic settings such as the display orientation. And there was no way to disable syncing.

My Forerunner 935 is basically the same story today. I can't do anything on it via the mobile apps. I guess I probably could do something with their desktop app and the USB cable, but it's really struck me how crippled the device seems today with their servers down, basically nothing is available or works at all through either Garmin Connect or ConnectIQ mobile apps. The apps don't appear to have any recent data cached locally either.

Re: Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack

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https://www.ithome.com.tw/news/139004 (I'm not sure if it's reliable) This Taiwanese tech site says because of virus, IT system and production line are down for two days according to insider. they claim it might be ransomware.

It is ransomware.
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