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Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Step 1: Type in stolen username Step 2: Type in stolen password Step 3: Click log in button Step 4: ( •_• ) ( •_• )>⌐■-■ ( ⌐■_■) Step 5: I'm in One example of a "sophisticated" attack

Now you're making me wonder how many places the sunglasses meme in unicode could be used as a valid password.

only one way to find out (⌐■_■)

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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I mean does it really matter what the church says? The important part is what God actually thinks here and that seems to be very different depending on who you ask.

To be more precise, what matters is not so much what God/gods "think", but what they want us to do. In this case, the textual foundation for Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus is Mark 16:16: "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned." Assuming these really are the words of Jesus, they leave very little for interpretation, no matter what Vaticanum II says.

These can not be the words of Jesus since the language of these words did not exist at the time (assuming a deity that doesn't express itself in yet unformed languages).

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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So I should get the consent of my entire extended family before I ever submit my DNA to a service for analysis?

I think so, yes. Otherwise you're sending large portions of their personally identifiable information to some sort of database without their consent.

Do you also think I should consult my identical twin for permission before uploading photos of myself to the internet? Why / why not?

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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And half the DNA of all of the siblings and parents of the people that submitted their DNA, a quarter of their grandparents and grandchildren and so on. That's what I really hate about these companies, they get people to submit their DNA and the customers do not realize it isn't a decision that affects just them.

So I should get the consent of my entire extended family before I ever submit my DNA to a service for analysis?

With likely very dire results, yes I think you should. If your mothers insurance rate goes up, since you got one of these dna tests for Christmas, she should be involved in the decision to publish this data in the first place.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Seems unlikely to be a sustainable business. For GEDMatch, Ancestry.com, 23andMe, etc, most of the value comes from being able to aggregate many people's data. If they had to delete it after collecting, they'd have to charge a lot more, and there's just no market for that. Perhaps they could anonymize the data (at least, purge foreign key references to account/billing info) after 6 months, but not delete it.

Much like you can't anonymize browsing history data, email metadata or financial transactions -- I suspect DNA information also cannot be satisfactorily anonymized. "Anonymized data" is a marketing term.

This makes me wonder if there would be some use in zero knowledge protocols that use a person's DNA information for the secret.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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I think so, yes. Otherwise you're sending large portions of their personally identifiable information to some sort of database without their consent.

Do you also think I should consult my identical twin for permission before uploading photos of myself to the internet? Why / why not?

I'd argue not, since a single photography contains much, much less information than a full DNA fingerprint.

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That leads to my afterlife nightmare scenario. I die bravely in glorious battle and am chosen by the Valkyries for Valhalla. One evening as we feast after that day's fighting, quaffing giant tankards of mead and boasting of our deeds, there comes a knock at the door. Two young men in suits enter, and go to speak to Odin. Odin then call for me to come over. He tells me that the young men are Mormons, and that some dis…

Valhalla is only good if you keep winning the afterlife wars!

Ragnarök is the only afterlife war.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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And half the DNA of all of the siblings and parents of the people that submitted their DNA, a quarter of their grandparents and grandchildren and so on. That's what I really hate about these companies, they get people to submit their DNA and the customers do not realize it isn't a decision that affects just them.

I wouldn't consider DNA to be secret information. Given that you leave them every where you go.

There is a world of difference between

1. Having your DNA already in the database

2. Your DNA being out somewhere on the street where it could only be linked to you by name through a targeted reconnaissance effort

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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I think so, yes. Otherwise you're sending large portions of their personally identifiable information to some sort of database without their consent.

Do you also think I should consult my identical twin for permission before uploading photos of myself to the internet? Why / why not?

Hardly a fair comparison. However the few identical twins I know have been very mindful of how their individual behavior affects the other.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Do you also think I should consult my identical twin for permission before uploading photos of myself to the internet? Why / why not?

I'd argue not, since a single photography contains much, much less information than a full DNA fingerprint.

Not for identifying or incriminating you it doesn't given the practical risk of how the information can be used.
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