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Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Send someone up to space each year and sprinkle water on earth, do a bulk lot.

Even discounting the procedural difficulties, which would make such a baptism invalid to the church, it doesn't count without knowledge and consent.

How do the dead ancestors give consent in the current scheme?

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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I waited for this. Sorry to all that are affected, but maybe this is a sign for others, not to give their DNA to a random company.

Yeah, just like people stopped using their real identities on the net where there is absolutely nobody with an axe to grind for trivial issues. Sorry for the cynicism. What is even worse, people actually using these services create expectations towards everyone smart enough not to do that. Of course, that would mean your near relatives have to be smart enough not to use these services either... Now any health insurer…

Isn’t it illegal to use DNA data for purposes of health insurance? How would insurance company be able to use it? Companies like kaiser run both hospitals and insurance, yet they can’t use your full medical history when determining your insurance risk.

The bigger issue imho is companies using biometrics as a secure authentication, but at least in USA that’s going to be no worse than SSN mess.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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And half the DNA of all of the siblings and parents of the people that submitted their DNA, a quarter of their grandparents and grandchildren and so on. That's what I really hate about these companies, they get people to submit their DNA and the customers do not realize it isn't a decision that affects just them.

I wouldn't consider DNA to be secret information. Given that you leave them every where you go.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

#224

I waited for this. Sorry to all that are affected, but maybe this is a sign for others, not to give their DNA to a random company.

Yeah, just like people stopped using their real identities on the net where there is absolutely nobody with an axe to grind for trivial issues. Sorry for the cynicism. What is even worse, people actually using these services create expectations towards everyone smart enough not to do that. Of course, that would mean your near relatives have to be smart enough not to use these services either... Now any health insurer…

>Now any health insurer could use this data to identify high risk genetic defects...

Why shouldn't they be able to? To not allow them is to force others more fit individuals to subsidise you.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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I waited for this. Sorry to all that are affected, but maybe this is a sign for others, not to give their DNA to a random company.

Rather why such companies are even allowed? They are literally privacy invasion, even if by ignorance.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Yeah, just like people stopped using their real identities on the net where there is absolutely nobody with an axe to grind for trivial issues. Sorry for the cynicism. What is even worse, people actually using these services create expectations towards everyone smart enough not to do that. Of course, that would mean your near relatives have to be smart enough not to use these services either... Now any health insurer…

Isn’t it illegal to use DNA data for purposes of health insurance? How would insurance company be able to use it? Companies like kaiser run both hospitals and insurance, yet they can’t use your full medical history when determining your insurance risk. The bigger issue imho is companies using biometrics as a secure authentication, but at least in USA that’s going to be no worse than SSN mess.

Legislation is sensible and in larger insurers this promise will probably be kept. But if the info is available, people will look it up. Long time disease risk is interesting to many people.

If you leave your door open, people are still not allowed to steal you things. Do you leave your door open?

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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It sort of addresses a fundamental issue with a lot of Christian religions that teach that people who never had a chance to hear about Jesus and be baptized automatically go to hell. There's a lot I dislike about the Mormon church and its doctrine, but the Mormon conception of the afterlife is quite a bit more fair than a lot of other religions. Note: in Mormon theology, those that die and receive their baptism by pr…

> It sort of addresses a fundamental issue with a lot of Christian religions that teach that people who never had a chance to hear about Jesus and be baptized automatically go to hell. This always struck me as one of the most stupid and illogical tenets as it's in opposition to the concept of loving and just God: why create millions of people who have no chance to meet the Gospel, and then automatically condemn them…

Most Christian denominations do not believe that those who are unaware of Christianity automatically go to hell. They usually say that it's down to divine providence and God's mercy, and that it's pointless to speculate beyond that, those being ineffable and all.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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That’s why I bought the tests on Amazon on Father’s Day sale. Then used completely fake info and fake email to register on the testing company site. Totally anonymous as there’s no way to link the purchase to results.

For 23AndMe you can buy the kit in cash in a store like Target and post the sample. Then use anonymous connection and email to use the website and get the results.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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But you can't do that to a million people, only to individual targets. Economic scale matters in a lot of evil plots.

Just wait until these fancy "smart" coffee cups with built-in nano-labs become ubiquitous.

If we have nano-labs then we can also have nano-obfuscation-labs to protect our privacy - randomly mutate or CRISPR any DNA we shed
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