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New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by nottorp »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #22
lorenzhs wrote: post #7

Looks rather nice, but "up to 5 hours battery with real use" for the 14" model is pretty awful, to put it mildly. They should get a lot more running time from a 47Wh battery than 5h. Only one USB-C port (apparently without charging support?) is pretty stingy, too. And one of the USB-A ports is only USB 2.0? WTF

Yeah, the first thing I noticed is that it uses the high power Ryzen variant, the 4800H, instead of the more efficient 4750U. At load, the difference is 45W vs 15W according to AMD.

Prolly explains the cheapness.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by nvarsj »

These Ryzen chips look like game changers for laptops. Intel has stagnated for so long in comparison. Preliminary reports show near desktop performance for the Ryzen chips, and they blow Intel mobile chips out of the water - like 200% faster and much better thermals for sustained computing. On the downside, I've read rumors that Intel is leveraging its OEM relationships to keep AMD processors out of top of the line models such as Thinkpad X1. Intel is also preventing AMD laptops from using TB3. So it seems the options for an AMD laptop right now will remain limited - but I hope this will improve over the next year or so as demand increases for the cheaper and faster AMD laptops. You should not be buying an Intel laptop anymore IMO.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by acomjean »

toyg wrote: post #27
fk6aaa545c wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds great and good to see AMD cpu as intel has been very problematic in last few years (especially on linux, but windows as well), 32gigs ram for that money is great when thinkpad t495s comes with 8gig ram soldered on the board. But where is the trackpoint?

The trackpoint is a patented IBM/Lenovo thing, isn't it...?

It’s got to be expired now. It’s been over 20 years.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by pantaloony »

tluyben2 wrote: post #30
rcthompson wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I've never come close to the battery life numbers that Apple claims.

Same here... I have brought several laptops back to the store 'for repair' just for that but there is never anything wrong and I really get miserable battery life out of macbooks. Devving + browsing.

I bet I could get my MacBook’s battery life down to 5hrs with Slack, Chrome, WhatsApp, and VSCode all running, while “not doing anything that demanding”. Use Safari, use native-code messengers or open them only as-needed in response to alerts on my phone, and use Sublime and it’s back to approaching 10hrs.

JavaScript eats battery and Safari is the only of the three major macOS browsers that takes power use seriously. If you live in webapps and Electron you’re gonna have battery trouble no matter what.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by pjmlp »

nvarsj wrote: post #42

These Ryzen chips look like game changers for laptops. Intel has stagnated for so long in comparison. Preliminary reports show near desktop performance for the Ryzen chips, and they blow Intel mobile chips out of the water - like 200% faster and much better thermals for sustained computing. On the downside, I've read rumors that Intel is leveraging its OEM relationships to keep AMD processors out of top of the line m…

Meanwhile I would be happy if my AMD GPU was able to support OpenGL 4.1 like it used to do with fxglr, instead I have to be happy that it does OpenGL 3.1 at all with Mesa 20, or reboot into Windows to enjoy DirectX 11.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by temptemptemp111 »

mariusor wrote: post #20
the_dripper wrote: post #12

This is pretty cool. Are there any other laptops with linux on them out there ?

That's a pretty easy search to do I think. Slimbook and Tuxedo Computers are selling similar rebranded models in the European market, and Purism and System76 in the US. From the major brand names, Lenovo is supposed to have preinstalled linux as an option for their T line, and there's Dell also that sells the XPS Developer edition.

The T Series has official Linux support too?

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by MrRadar »

pjmlp wrote: post #45
nvarsj wrote: post #42

These Ryzen chips look like game changers for laptops. Intel has stagnated for so long in comparison. Preliminary reports show near desktop performance for the Ryzen chips, and they blow Intel mobile chips out of the water - like 200% faster and much better thermals for sustained computing. On the downside, I've read rumors that Intel is leveraging its OEM relationships to keep AMD processors out of top of the line m…

Meanwhile I would be happy if my AMD GPU was able to support OpenGL 4.1 like it used to do with fxglr, instead I have to be happy that it does OpenGL 3.1 at all with Mesa 20, or reboot into Windows to enjoy DirectX 11.

Which GPU do you have? According to https://mesamatrix.net the radeonsi driver for GCN and RDNA cards supports OpenGL 4.6 (the latest), and the r600 driver for older TeraScale cards supports 4.5.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by 0xfaded »

baybal2 wrote: post #25
tomp wrote: post #14

Wow, this laptop is serious business, it's the only less-than-15-inch laptop I could find with 32GB of RAM below 1500 EUR (it's only 1069!). Does anyone have any experience with these ones, any reviews?

The thing is, a lion share of all AMD notebooks on the market is developed, and manufactured by a single OEM. If you look inside recent lenovos, or huawei laptops: scratch, scratch, and you see Qinghua Tongfang logos on PCB, and body parts. The PCB design, and parts list is nearly identical. Very few big brand companies have in-house engineering for laptops, and the few who have, have it for Intel only.

This is really cool information.

My current laptop is a €3.000 Lenovo X1, which I'm not particularly impressed by.

I was impressed by my 440s which lasted 5 years though.

Where would you suggest I go for my next laptop?

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by cs02rm0 »

lorenzhs wrote: post #7

Looks rather nice, but "up to 5 hours battery with real use" for the 14" model is pretty awful, to put it mildly. They should get a lot more running time from a 47Wh battery than 5h. Only one USB-C port (apparently without charging support?) is pretty stingy, too. And one of the USB-A ports is only USB 2.0? WTF

They're issues, but I think they're fairly minor issues. I paid comfortably more than twice as much for a MBP and I only use one of the USB-C ports, admittedly for charging too. And it's pretty permanently plugged in for power - once in a blue moon I need to be mobile with it.

I'd probably have bought two if they were out when I was looking last year. Wish them plenty of success, because there aren't many competitors out there with Linux as a first class OS.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by pjmlp »

MrRadar wrote: post #47
pjmlp wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile I would be happy if my AMD GPU was able to support OpenGL 4.1 like it used to do with fxglr, instead I have to be happy that it does OpenGL 3.1 at all with Mesa 20, or reboot into Windows to enjoy DirectX 11.

Which GPU do you have? According to https://mesamatrix.net the radeonsi driver for GCN and RDNA cards supports OpenGL 4.6 (the latest), and the r600 driver for older TeraScale cards supports 4.5.

Which given my hint about FXGLR doesn't do me much good.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-6310-igp.c22...

With fxglr, I enjoyed OpenGL 4.1, hardware video decoding, even though as you see from the specs, it can do more than that on Windows.

With the wonderful open source driver, I get OpenGL 3.1 without hardware video acceleration.

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