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Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Is there anything, anything that this administration could do that you wouldn’t immediately spin and shit on?

Yes, the President could resign.

"He did it because he's too shallow to face defeat at the polls!".

You see, you can spin anything.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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This administration is anti-science in every way possible way - from the climate to covid to education and more. $75M is literally a rounding error when it comes to the federal budget. This is pure election year nonsense - basically it's a $75 million marketing ploy (using tax dollars) to beef up the administration's pitiful record on science. I am looking forward to the outrageous lies about this soon. Trump will ha…

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Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

#63

This administration is anti-science in every way possible way - from the climate to covid to education and more. $75M is literally a rounding error when it comes to the federal budget. This is pure election year nonsense - basically it's a $75 million marketing ploy (using tax dollars) to beef up the administration's pitiful record on science. I am looking forward to the outrageous lies about this soon. Trump will ha…

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Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Surely this amount pales in comparison to the likely level of investment in this field by the intelligence community, considering the implications for cryptography. This is like announcing $75m for nuclear technology research during the Manhattan Project.

NIST is already well into a post-quantum crypto competition. Any serious user of cryptography will have switched to the new protocols by the time quantum computers become powerful enough to crack production RSA. Cloudflare has already prototyped protocols in TLS [0]. Scott Aaronson has gone on record saying he would be "astonished" if this happened within a decade. This isn't like the cold war days. The quantum compu…

> Any serious user of cryptography will have switched to the new protocols by the time quantum computers become powerful enough to crack production RSA

Yes, but the NSA could still decrypt messages from the past if they recorded and stored them.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Republicans And Democrats agree to spend more tax dollars.

I'm shocked.

What great initiative for our politicians to spend our money.

/s

Given we have private companies and universities working on this, seems like another way of growing government and giving money to politicians friends.

Although since USD is a world currency, I suppose we can just print money and devalue which disproportionately affects foreigners.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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post #55

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NIST is already well into a post-quantum crypto competition. Any serious user of cryptography will have switched to the new protocols by the time quantum computers become powerful enough to crack production RSA. Cloudflare has already prototyped protocols in TLS [0]. Scott Aaronson has gone on record saying he would be "astonished" if this happened within a decade. This isn't like the cold war days. The quantum compu…

> Any serious user of cryptography will have switched to the new protocols by the time quantum computers become powerful enough to crack production RSA Yes, but the NSA could still decrypt messages from the past if they recorded and stored them.

Well, anyone could yes. That's why if you want messages you're sending today to remain secret for longer than a decade, you use a cipher that isn't fully broken by quantum computers like AES. It's really just the key distribution methods that will be broken by quantum computers, they only get a sqrt(n) speedup against symmetric-key cryptography: double the key size and you're golden.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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This administration is anti-science in every way possible way - from the climate to covid to education and more. $75M is literally a rounding error when it comes to the federal budget. This is pure election year nonsense - basically it's a $75 million marketing ploy (using tax dollars) to beef up the administration's pitiful record on science. I am looking forward to the outrageous lies about this soon. Trump will ha…

Ignoring all the political stuff, you do have an interesting point.

How much quantum computing will $75 million buy the US government? It doesn't seem like that much money, given that the Summit super computer at Oak Ridge cost $325 million to build.

$75 millions seems like the amount you'd need to start renting office space and hire researchers for a few years. I don't think it will be enough to fund building any actual quantum computers. Especially given that we're talking three centers, not one.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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so close to admitting trump has done something decent!

Sure, apart from the corruption, the violence, the increasingly blatant racism, "he" [his advisors] did something that costs next to nothing.

i don't really like Trump, but i don't believe everything i read in the media. All news at this point is just push an agenda from one side of the tribe or the other.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, apart from the corruption, the violence, the increasingly blatant racism, "he" [his advisors] did something that costs next to nothing.

i don't really like Trump, but i don't believe everything i read in the media. All news at this point is just push an agenda from one side of the tribe or the other.

Sure, but you don't need to trust the media to hear a lot of these things come out of his own mouth.
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