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Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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Post by codeddesign »

thephyber wrote: post #120
auganov wrote: post #114

> We will permanently suspend accounts Tweeting about these topics that we know are engaged in violations of our multi-account policy, coordinating abuse around individual victims, or are attempting to evade a previous suspension — something we’ve seen more of in recent weeks. So is Twitter essentially admitting this rule is only enforced against groups they don't like? If they're spreading hatred against some groups…

You could have read another 2 paragraphs lower and had your questions answered: > The spokesperson said while the targeted enforcement against QAnon fell under Twitter’s existing platform manipulation rules, its classification of QAnon as coordinated harmful activity was a new designation. The spokesperson said Twitter was taking action now because of an escalating degree of harm associated with the conspiracy theory…

In regards to your last point: Is it though? That’s a very large generalization for half the country.

That’s like saying Obama supporters are pro killing innocent people with drones. Obviously this is ridiculous.

Both far right and left have extremists that shouldn’t be tolerated by anyone.

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Post by codeddesign »

jhardy54 wrote: post #122
codeddesign wrote: post #38

I’d like to see Antifa added to this growing list as well. The article states this group has “ties to dangerous real-world activities”. Does anyone know of any? Or is this just conjecture? The article’s statement was fairly vague.

If you're optimizing for "ties to dangerous real-world activities" it's weird that you'd pick anti-fascist protestors before considering cops and soldiers. Cool ideology you have there.

I’m not for war, but to ban all soldiers and cops is ridiculous - so is saying that all cops and all soldiers are bad.

Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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Post by auganov »

codeddesign wrote: post #127
auganov wrote: post #114

> We will permanently suspend accounts Tweeting about these topics that we know are engaged in violations of our multi-account policy, coordinating abuse around individual victims, or are attempting to evade a previous suspension — something we’ve seen more of in recent weeks. So is Twitter essentially admitting this rule is only enforced against groups they don't like? If they're spreading hatred against some groups…

This has already been stated by them on the record multiple times. The last I seen was on Joe Rogan I believe. In that episode the CEO stated that trans is a protected class and it would be a ban-able offense for a Christian to tell a trans person they are their biologal sex (male / female). Obviously Christian vs Non would have differing viewpoints towards this subject. She also stated they made they decision intern…

Well, the trans policy is written out in their TOS so at least everybody can follow it.

I think Twitter can do whatever they want and personally I'm fine with rules if they actually mean something. But here it sounds like they're just coming up with a bogus reason to delete a lot of people permanently.

The normal penalty for violating most rules that have to do with what you said is a temporary ban. By invoking this one they can go for a permanent suspension straight away.

Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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Post by jhardy54 »

codeddesign wrote: post #132
jhardy54 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're optimizing for "ties to dangerous real-world activities" it's weird that you'd pick anti-fascist protestors before considering cops and soldiers. Cool ideology you have there.

I’m not for war, but to ban all soldiers and cops is ridiculous - so is saying that all cops and all soldiers are bad.

> all cops and all soldiers are bad

Finally something we can agree on.

Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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Post by dwd »

manigandham wrote: post #99
exogeny wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you describe to me what you think Antifa is?

A loose organization with regional groups, ranging from random protesters by proximity to political activists to violent criminals and terrorists, with various claims from generally left/socialist ideologies to outright radical extremism.

I would say "completely disorganised" rather than "loose organisation" and I can't see that changing.

The left is a vast collection of competing factional ideas that in many cases the only common purpose is a demand for change.

Environmentalists can't agree with each other, let alone animal welfare activists who can't agree with native/traditional rights; and theres a range of single issue movements that end up diluting support for bigger picture issues simply by association. I'm not saying that they are wrong or their demands invalid but it draws attention away from the messages everyone could get behind if there was better focus.

It happened with the "Occupy Wall Street" and "BLM" will likely go the same way if it doesn't simply stick to one core message.

Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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Post by msbarnett »

andrenth wrote: post #130
msbarnett wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, exactly like that. People who believe there’s a vast conspiracy of celebrities to drain “adrenochrome” from children to gain eternal life or whatever aren’t a protected class, after all.

You’re saying a private company is allowed to decide who they want on their property. This must hold for all private companies, no?

Yes, provided they are not deciding on the basis of someone belonging to a protected class. Hence a cake maker can cheerfully refuse your business on the basis of you wanting a cake that says “Jennifer Garner Eats Babies” but not on the basis of you, say, being homosexual, or Black.

Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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Post by mensetmanusman »

asquabventured wrote: post #41
mensetmanusman wrote: post #15

The average person isn’t capable enough to judge information for themselves; we need people in power to curate what is seen.

> The average person isn’t capable enough to judge information for themselves; we need people in power to curate what is seen. I hope this is just missing the sarcasm tag?

Sarcasm for me, but I know some believe it.

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Post by AndrewBissell »

catalogia wrote: post #25
skindoe wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the evidence you think it is. In sports analogies That would be the equivalent of brian windhorst tweeting out something and then you saying that it came "Directly from LeBron James". People are not responsible for what their ignorant fans say.

Is "QAnon" even a person? I am under the impression that is a moniker that has likely been used by numerous unrelated people. I know believers of this stuff think "QAnon" is a person, but I've not seen any evidence that leads me to believe this is the case and quite a bit of conjecture / circumstantial evidence that suggests at one point the name was being used by a cabal of imageboard moderators.

There was an account on 8chan which would sign posts with "Q" and a unique hash which could be used to prove the identity of a particular person or group posting. Last I looked this account/hash hadn't been heard from in some time though.

Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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Post by AndrewBissell »

For those interested in a deep dive into QAnon and its origins I highly recommend this podcast by Robbie Martin. He goes into possible links to Roger Stone and Erik Prince (and therefore ultimately Trump).

https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/the-origins-of-qanon-foll...

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