Facebook hate groups don't need Twitter accounts to operate. Regardless of the presumably positive outcome for the mainstream timeline, this is likely a futile whack-a-mole move that only benefits Twitter. Hate groups organize in private and output the vitriol with whichever fake accounts they have in possession. The way to definitively solve this societal problem is to help the people caught in the self-radicalisation filter bubble to overcome their real-life problems that fuel the hate. Banning them from the services that played a part in turning them seems a bit hypocritical.
Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't compare banning people from twitter and exterminating Jews. The two aren't comparable.
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Twitter isn't the government. Nor are QAnon-conspiracy-theorists comparable to . So no. You could, however compare Hitler banning the Jews from civil service to Trump creating new guidelines that ban trans-women from shelters.
That is a government action to marginalize a class of people those in positions of power find undesirable.
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#114> We will permanently suspend accounts Tweeting about these topics that we know are engaged in violations of our multi-account policy, coordinating abuse around individual victims, or are attempting to evade a previous suspension — something we’ve seen more of in recent weeks.
So is Twitter essentially admitting this rule is only enforced against groups they don't like?
If they're spreading hatred against some groups or harassing individuals why not use these rules instead? Twitter prohibits that already.
Also the timing is interesting given America is having and election in a few months and these Q people are some of President Trump's most devoted supporters. Didn't seem to bother them for over 2 years.
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#115Back in the '90s, when you entered AOL Instant Messenger chatrooms there was always disclaimers saying that certain content (swearing, hate speech, sexual material, etc.) were subject to be filtered out, or would cause you to be kicked.
Message boards and forums have always had moderators and admins who could censor at will. You're posting on one right now.
Can anyone explain how Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc. is qualitatively different from any of these other websites?
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#116The USA is such a mess. Can't have free speech because too many voters are conspiracy nuts. Can't ban content because free speech. The level of ignorance has to be seen to be believed, on sites like 4chan. Education can clear this impasse, but is it too late?
The thing is, people like Musk are scared of super-intelligent AIs, but all you really needed is Russian MLbots more intelligent than the median American.
Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown
#117Back in the '90s, when you entered AOL Instant Messenger chatrooms there was always disclaimers saying that certain content (swearing, hate speech, sexual material, etc.) were subject to be filtered out, or would cause you to be kicked. Message boards and forums have always had moderators and admins who could censor at will. You're posting on one right now. Can anyone explain how Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc. is q…
The scale. These major platforms are becoming increasingly dominant forms of communication and mediums of expression.
There's a real question about when they cease being just another website or chatroom and become a public utility.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like a private enterprise deciding what they want on their property, to me.
So like, say, a cake shop?
Sure, exactly like that. People who believe there’s a vast conspiracy of celebrities to drain “adrenochrome” from children to gain eternal life or whatever aren’t a protected class, after all.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Free speech the concept is different from the First Amendment, which is different from private companies and private property. The fringes will always be there, they're just more visible and vocal now. The real issue is whether a platform will choose to be moderated or not, and what tools it offers to users to control their experience. All major platforms are still working on that balance, especially as they become i…
> The fringes will always be there, they're just more visible and vocal now. And the fringes have enlisted bots to amplify their message, which includes accusations of serious criminal behavior with no evidence that would stand up in court. I suspect media platforms won't actually be able to fix these problems because they are codependent on the outrage that they create.
I agree. Communications have been mechanized and "social" has expanded in scale beyond any human limit.
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#120> We will permanently suspend accounts Tweeting about these topics that we know are engaged in violations of our multi-account policy, coordinating abuse around individual victims, or are attempting to evade a previous suspension — something we’ve seen more of in recent weeks. So is Twitter essentially admitting this rule is only enforced against groups they don't like? If they're spreading hatred against some groups…
You could have read another 2 paragraphs lower and had your questions answered:
> The spokesperson said while the targeted enforcement against QAnon fell under Twitter’s existing platform manipulation rules, its classification of QAnon as coordinated harmful activity was a new designation. The spokesperson said Twitter was taking action now because of an escalating degree of harm associated with the conspiracy theory.
Q / QAnon only exists because of the Trump election. It's a way for "President Trump's most devoted supporters" to be engaged in the campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire LARP was created by or steered by the campaign team.