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It's actions that matter. Both extremes behave the same, regardless of what they call themselves or claim to do.
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#92It's been encouraging to see companies grow a backbone and crack down on harassment and hate campaigns, and not hide behind cowardly cries of "free speech." Twitter has taken too much time to do this, but recently they've been doing it more. Even Reddit, notorious for powering and consciously allowing hate campaigns, has cracked down more. It's also been interesting that the proponents of allowing these campaigns to…
> ...to jump from banning hate campaigns on private platforms, to total censorship, is an impressively intellectually dishonest juggling act. I don't know how unintelligent you have to be to not see the connection here. I'll assume you're just being disingenuous. I don't follow or support QAnon, I think it's nonsense. I however recognise these kinds of sweeping bans as an effort to corral online speech into a restric…
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#93The USA is such a mess. Can't have free speech because too many voters are conspiracy nuts. Can't ban content because free speech. The level of ignorance has to be seen to be believed, on sites like 4chan. Education can clear this impasse, but is it too late?
For the uniformed: At least, long ago, in the beginning of 4chan, nobody believed this. They purposely made it up for fun and trolling. I seriously don't understand how there are some people unaware of this.
They then purposely pushed it from 4chan to places it would be believed, other forms of social media like Facebook.
The general populace (of social media users) are the ones who eat it up. They eat shit up from an anonymous image board that has always said that
"The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
tl:dr "civil" society has quite literally proved it's simply not ready for the internet. Wonder if this will go down as the Great Filter.
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By following the digital trail - https://www.insider.com/wayfair-human-trafficking-conspiracy...
That's not the evidence you think it is. In sports analogies That would be the equivalent of brian windhorst tweeting out something and then you saying that it came "Directly from LeBron James". People are not responsible for what their ignorant fans say.
No that's not an equivalent. QAnon is not a person in the same way LeBron James is a person. Is there a name for this logically fallacy where someone compares two wildly different scenarios thinking it's somehow related?
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Good thing many alternatives exist!
What if Google and Twitter deside that those "alternatives" are hateful for disagreeing politically and stop linking them on their platforms making it extremely difficult/impossible to find them?
What does Google have to do with this discussion about Twitter?
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Honestly, I don’t think twitter should ban anyone. As long as it’s legal, keep it up. Otherwise you essentially have censorship through corporate monopolies.
However, if you are going to have terms then stick to them.
To answer you question, yes. Those a part of Antifa, and those promoting Antifa. (decision based upon their statement in the article and them stating what is a “ban-able” offense).
Hope that answered your question! :)
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#98I’d like to see Antifa added to this growing list as well. The article states this group has “ties to dangerous real-world activities”. Does anyone know of any? Or is this just conjecture? The article’s statement was fairly vague.
As an antifascist, I'd like to list some things [0] which I haven't done and which I do not imagine are parts of healthy antifascism, but which I can understand that Twitter might ban folks for encouraging or doing:
* Doxxing
* Brandishing weapons in a family restaurant [1]
* Targeting journalists for violence
* Targeting public figures who have been accused of crimes for violence [2]
* Targeting politicians for violence
* Bombing churches (and yes, Satanic temples are just as bad to bomb as Christian churches)
* Invading foreign soil
Could you help flesh out the equivalence here? It seems like quite the false equivalence to me. Antifascist violence is a last resort, not a central desire of the ideology; we've seen police, military police, and now secret police in a continuing escalation of violence by the state; meanwhile, Q's followers seem quite happy to endorse violence as the primary means by which political and social change are achieved, by which detective work is done and facts are learned, and by which discussions are had and consensus is reached.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Incidents
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory
Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown
#99I’d like to see Antifa added to this growing list as well. The article states this group has “ties to dangerous real-world activities”. Does anyone know of any? Or is this just conjecture? The article’s statement was fairly vague.
Can you describe to me what you think Antifa is?
A loose organization with regional groups, ranging from random protesters by proximity to political activists to violent criminals and terrorists, with various claims from generally left/socialist ideologies to outright radical extremism.
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Honestly, I don’t think twitter should ban anyone. As long as it’s legal, keep it up. Otherwise you essentially have censorship through corporate monopolies. However, if you are going to have terms then stick to them. To answer you question, yes. Those a part of Antifa, and those promoting Antifa. (decision based upon their statement in the article and them stating what is a “ban-able” offense). Hope that answered yo…
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