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Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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I’d like to see Antifa added to this growing list as well. The article states this group has “ties to dangerous real-world activities”. Does anyone know of any? Or is this just conjecture? The article’s statement was fairly vague.

Can you describe to me what you think Antifa is?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you describe to me what you think Antifa is?

A group of communists? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

I think all time travelers should be welcomed on Twitter with welcome arms, be they from 1933 or 2933.

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you describe to me what you think Antifa is?

A group of communists? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

First of all, from this link:

> was a militant anti-fascist organisation,

emphasis mine. People who self-identify as anti-fascist nowadays have little to do with communism. Why not link this page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

Second of all, is "communist" a slur on HN? Is that supposed to sound scary or something?

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Can anyone explain what is happening with the downvotes on this post? Almost every single top level comment has been downvoted to almost disappearing.

There are a few different contingents that frequent HN and bother to look at the comments on posts like this, which results in equal numbers of downvotes on wildly opposing top level comments.

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The phrase "more ... than any other account" is hyperbolic at best. The repetitive drumbeat to try to paint Trump as Hitler-esque is strange. Among other things his ability to communicate is severely lacking.

Since we apparently are expressing wishes now, I wish that twitter just didn't exist in the first place.

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Article says that the Wayfair ordeal was a Qanon conspiracy. How was that attributed to them?

That's totally incorrect. That conspiracy began on 4chan's Politically Incorrect board.

AFAIK that's the origin of the "QAnon" shit too, so I'm not sure that really contradicts much.

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Can anyone explain what is happening with the downvotes on this post? Almost every single top level comment has been downvoted to almost disappearing.

1. The community is divided because society is divided. Each side downvotes the other.

2. HN users tend to downvote tedious, repetitive flamewar.

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I’d like to see Antifa added to this growing list as well. The article states this group has “ties to dangerous real-world activities”. Does anyone know of any? Or is this just conjecture? The article’s statement was fairly vague.

QAnon has been associated with at least one murder, several kidnappings, and a number of terroristic threats:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Incidents https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2020/01/08/mother-t...

No "antifa" movement has been associated with the same degree of violence and coordinated harassment. There are not tens of thousands of "antifa" members sharing lists of public figures they believe have been or should be executed and fabricating evidence against those figures.

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Yes they are, they've done it for all of modern civilization. People in power telling us what to think doesn't end well. The issue is social media and the speed and scale of information without identity or verification. That's not going to be solved by curation.

"A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can even get its boots on", that old adage. But social has supercharged the whole affair, as you say, in speed and scale. Curation cannot solve it, but can it have some role in moderating it? What other tools do we have to throttle the damage? Do we need to axe social media entirely?

The root issue is trust. All curation does is move the "trust" requirement from the poster to the curator, but it doesn't solve for it. In fact, it arguably makes it worse since it concentrates power and reduces inputs.

I think social media needs to reform along our naturally developed behaviors. Small communities with some proximity and a measured flow of information. The instant global stimulus with anonymous accounts is clearly making us lose our minds.

Re: Twitter bans 7k QAnon accounts, limits 150k others as part of broad crackdown

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Can anyone explain what is happening with the downvotes on this post? Almost every single top level comment has been downvoted to almost disappearing.

HN has had a problem with bigotry and white supremacy for a long time. That's why.
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