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FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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Re: FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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Great point. We think founders/builders make the best investors. They can sniff out failure. Selection is done through peer ranking by the applicants themselves. Top make it in.

So the founders need to research every potential company that could join their pool to figure out how to rank them? Seems like that takes a lot of time to do right.

we make it really easy to get the nuggets of information you need at a glance. You can only rank your top 10.

Re: FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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How is this structured legally and what are the tax implications? Have you spoken with a tax attorney about it?

It is a complex structure under the hood. There is a master LLC, holding c corp and an investment advisor.

Tax implications for the founders are similar to their founder stock obligations, when liquidation happens

Re: FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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I will never invest in a startup where the founder(s) don't believe in their companies. Moving forward all terms I negotiate will explicitly state that this (e.g. things like FounderPool) will not be a possible scenario.

This seems like a needlessly hard-line stance to me. It's not reasonable to think that "belief in one's company" is the only thing that will decide the success or failure of a startup, and wanting to hedge against the scenario where you pour your heart and soul into something for years, only to see it not pay off in the end, is very understandable.

Re: FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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I will never invest in a startup where the founder(s) don't believe in their companies. Moving forward all terms I negotiate will explicitly state that this (e.g. things like FounderPool) will not be a possible scenario.

Are you also against founders who diversify financial risk through angel investing?

Re: FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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This sounds similar to Pando [1], which is doing income pooling for professional baseball players [2]:

"Nobody has to pay a cent until they've made it to the majors and they've made $1.6 million. Then that guy has to kick 10% of his salary back to his pool mates."

[1] https://www.pandopooling.com/baseball [2] https://www.npr.org/2019/10/25/773532516/some-baseball-playe...

Re: FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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I will never invest in a startup where the founder(s) don't believe in their companies. Moving forward all terms I negotiate will explicitly state that this (e.g. things like FounderPool) will not be a possible scenario.

Thats a very nice sentiment. It is nice to hear from investors like you who have a portoilfio for diversifying your own risk, but deny that explicitly for founders, who also have no management fee as a fallback.

Have you heard of founders getting money for secondary shares in series A (airbnb, FB, Clubhouse etc)? Or second time founders (who are financially secure form a prior exit) getting a premium in valuations?

Re: FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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This sounds similar to Pando [1], which is doing income pooling for professional baseball players [2]: "Nobody has to pay a cent until they've made it to the majors and they've made $1.6 million. Then that guy has to kick 10% of his salary back to his pool mates." [1] https://www.pandopooling.com/baseball [2] https://www.npr.org/2019/10/25/773532516/some-baseball-playe...

It is similar. The market segment and pool construction ton mechanism as well as the legal infrastructure is different.

We believe this scales beyond startup founders to education, athletics, and any domain where the outcome distributions follow some kind of power laws

Re: FounderPool: A community for founders to share risk and diversify their equity

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I will never invest in a startup where the founder(s) don't believe in their companies. Moving forward all terms I negotiate will explicitly state that this (e.g. things like FounderPool) will not be a possible scenario.

Thats like saying you'd never drive with someone who uses a seatbelt because wearing one means they don't "believe" in their ability to drive safely.
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