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I Don't Want to Be a Founder

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Re: I Don't Want to Be a Founder

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> ...though I've heard that that doesn't apply to having a family. It 100% applies to having a family. (Source: have family.)

Could you elaborate? As I said, I'm assuming this is a blind spot, but assuming both parents are onboard with trading consumption for security/freedom, I don't understand what specifically would make this unworkable. That is to say, the same logic applies to a family: If a family making $120k could survive adequately in a given location, then a family making $160k can pretend they make $120k and do the same thing. As…

> That is to say, the same logic applies to a family: If a family making $120k could survive adequately in a given location, then a family making $160k can pretend they make $120k and do the same thing.

Yes, I was trying to agree with you.

I'm married, have a family, and we do exactly what you describe. We live below our means and save as much as possible.

In our case, living below our means worked out as having a single income family, and having a full time care giver in the home. For others, that might mean maxing out two incomes and retiring earlier.

> Perhaps it has less to do with kids than it does coupling up: anecdotally, most of my male friends who are happy to be ascetic need to start flashing money when they start dating, and most of my female friends are far more interested in consumption/comfortable living spaces.

When we started dating, my wife joked she liked me for my crappy old beater of a car. What she meant by that, is she knew a lot of the guys with fancy cars were actually broke because all their money went into their car, and she could tell early on I was more responsible and frugal.

So be careful of over generalizations based on anecdotes. And, frankly, be careful about getting in a serious relationship with someone who doesn't seem capable of living within their means.

Re: I Don't Want to Be a Founder

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IMO, damned if you do damned if you don’t. Before covid it took me 12 months to find a job. I applied to 100 companies. Ironically, got a job during covid and the job is pretty relaxing compared to the job hunt. During the hunt I thought: society is kinda forcing my hand here. Also: a lot of knowledge workers have to work a lot of hours and keep on learning (e.g. doctors or programmers). To me, it feels much more lik…

> To me, it feels much more like a pick your poison type of thing. The way out is consistently living way under your means (if possible). If you don't live in poverty, this is likely possible in the general case; just pretend you make XX% less aftertax and voila, you have an %XX savings rate. There are non-monetary costs to doing this, but there are also benefits, and the freedom is really hard to beat. ...though I'v…

I have a family, and we live this way. My wife and I both grew up with stretches of financial insecurity and it has really effected how we see things. We're doing well now but we are still hyper aware of how things can change. Our modest home, modest cars, and modest lifestyles reflect that mindset.

Re: I Don't Want to Be a Founder

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Is it? Do people think it’s harder to do a PhD or get through medical school than it is to succeed with a VC-backed startup...?

Nobody said it was harder, so what's your question exactly?

I guess I’m confused by exactly that distinction...

If “more ambitious“ does not mean “willing to attempt harder” things, then what exactly does it mean?

Or do people just think that a founder successful VC-backed startup is not as “successful” as somebody who graduates from medical school or gets a PhD?

Re: I Don't Want to Be a Founder

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Could you elaborate? As I said, I'm assuming this is a blind spot, but assuming both parents are onboard with trading consumption for security/freedom, I don't understand what specifically would make this unworkable. That is to say, the same logic applies to a family: If a family making $120k could survive adequately in a given location, then a family making $160k can pretend they make $120k and do the same thing. As…

> That is to say, the same logic applies to a family: If a family making $120k could survive adequately in a given location, then a family making $160k can pretend they make $120k and do the same thing. Yes, I was trying to agree with you. I'm married, have a family, and we do exactly what you describe. We live below our means and save as much as possible. In our case, living below our means worked out as having a si…

Ha, my mistake, I misread your comment's reference to my own. I thought you were saying that it is definitely impossible to do while having a family.

Thanks for your perspective!

Re: I Don't Want to Be a Founder

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The biggest reason that so pushes me away from VC funding. One Pre-Seed fund reached out, so, and I will most likely pitch the guys. Because VC money allows you to speed things up in ways you can't by relying on free cash flow. That being said, I'd still prefer the latter becaus I don't want another boss (or multiple ones). Gess it depends on the conditions, so. And good point about the HR-department moment, that's t…

Pre-seed? So that's what maybe $10-$30K investment? Save yourself the trouble and do some contract work for 1-3 months, you can make the same amount with no strings attached.

Then after seed, the 30k are already there. More like 100 - 150k. Would speed things up, but solvable without investors as well. We'll see...
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