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+1’s: the right recommendations right when you want them—in your search results

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Re: +1’s: the right recommendations right when you want them—in your search results

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Post by mcobrien »

aero142 wrote: post #11

I still don't get this. What does my social circle have to do with my Google searches. I am friends with lots of people who I don't trust to influence my search results. The Hunch approach makes a lot more sense where it uses recommendations of people who have similar tastes to me. People I am friends with is not a good proxy for people who's opinion I care about when searching for camera documentation, or dog breeds…

According to the blog post, "if you’re looking for a new pasta recipe, we’ll show you +1’s from your culinary genius college roommate."

From the example, what you see is "Laura Delaney +1'd this", so at the very least you can evaluate the "+1" based on what you know about Laura.

Better still would be if they include Laura's name because she's +1'd (what an awkward phrase) a lot of cooking results, maybe in proportion to links on other topics.

Re: +1’s: the right recommendations right when you want them—in your search results

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Post by mcobrien »

Unfortunately, Google just doesn't know enough about my social graph to make this much more than a noisy list of strangers and site owners trying to game the system.

They say they "may" "soon" incorporate your connections on sites "like" Twitter which would be an improvement but from the language it sounds like they haven't even talked to Twitter about it yet.

Of course they don't mention Facebook, who do know my social graph and are busy collecting Likes around the web that they can use to build a robust, trustworthy recommendations product. It's going to be hard for Google to build the assets they need to avoid ceding part of the search market to Facebook.

Re: +1’s: the right recommendations right when you want them—in your search results

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Post by iamelgringo »

Dear Google,

It's been great knowing you for all these years, but you're really starting to creep my out.

I've trusted you with my 1,000 contacts in my email system. I've trusted you because you've said repeatedly that you're not going to be evil. I've trusted you with what I'm saying in my emails, because you've said repeatedly that no one really reads my email, you just automatically scan it and provide "helpful" ads.

And then, you gave me a really shiny phone, and I was in love. (You know I don't like Apple. They hurt me, and I've never forgiven them). I really liked how you made my live easier, and all my email contacts were automatically in my phone. And, anything that I updated in my phone, showed up in my email system.

You also really helped me out by by making it really easy to find things by using my phone. Your navigation system is really, really nice.

But, you're starting to really creep me out, Google.

First, you automatically gave me a "Profile" page, and linked all my contacts to it, without my permission.

And, now... You're changing my search results based on who I know and what they've liked. I trusted you with who I know. Please, stop using that information. If I want to know what links my friends have clicked on. I'll ask them. If I want to look at their pictures on flikr... I'll follow their photostream.

Please stop. You're really creeping me out. You know a lot about me, and I don't think I trust you any more.

So, this is it. I'm breaking up with you.

You've been following me around with my phone, so you know where I am at any given point in time. You know who I call and when I call them. You tried to get a record of all my phone calls with Google Voice, but that was just a little too creepy for me. You've had a record of every email that I've sent for the last few years, and you know most of what I'm looking for on the internet.

You're around me too much. You're following me. You want a record of my voice. You are showing me results that my "friends" are looking at. It's just too much. I'm leaving you.

As soon as my new phone comes in this week, I'm getting rid of your phone. I'm changing my email system to an Exchange based system. And, I'm switching my search engines to DuckDuckGo, Bing and Blekko.

I do appreciate your helpfulness in the past. But, you're getting way too close for comfort. Did I mention you're creeping me out?

Goodbye.

Re: +1’s: the right recommendations right when you want them—in your search results

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Post by yters »

giberson wrote: post #14

I really surprised at Google by this implementation--it seems like they didn't really think it through. When I'm searching for something, my behavior is usually: Google search term Open the top couple results in a new tab Check each tab, to see if they contain the information I was looking for If tab is not useful, or more information is required, check next tab. If information is satisfied, close window (all tabs, i…

If they combine it with the favorite star in Chrome then users have an incentive to upmark the material they like.

Re: +1’s: the right recommendations right when you want them—in your search results

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Post by speleding »

farlington wrote: post #43
ch0wn wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video hinted that they plan to provide embeddable +1 buttons in style of Facebook's "Like". Considering that, +1 can actually be useful because you would be able to see recommendation from your google contacts.

Except the nomenclature is so nerdy. You can't really say it out loud. Like is a nicely descriptive verb; 'plus one' is a phrase you see on a formal event invitation.

It's a lot easier to translate than "Like", that's good if you are doing business around the globe and only a small part of your audience is in the USA

Re: +1’s: the right recommendations right when you want them—in your search results

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Post by lemming »

logic wrote: post #70
ChuckMcM wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

perhaps its simply endemic. Internally to Google (which presumably arose outside of Google) was the notion that folks who agreed would simply put +1 in their email. Some tools (especially code review tools) could parse that and agreeable phrases like "looks good to me" as the writers approval of the original message. Sort of an in-band upvote if you want an HN translation. When I read about it this morning I thought…

The Apache lists, for as long as I can remember, used +1/-1/-0/+0/etc. as a means of informally expressing approval, as well as explicitly registering a vote from committers. http://httpd.apache.org/dev/voting.html That was the first place I'd seen it appear, although I assume it predates them.

I think the problem is that this will only make sense to geeks. This is the problem with a lot of Google's UI design, it's not designed for normal people and is often confusing for them.

Re: +1’s: the right recommendations right when you want them—in your search results

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

moultano wrote: post #45
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you really thought this through? For example, here are 3 possible search queries: 1) Is Blockbuster Movie any good? Here the opinions of your friends might be more valuable to you, as valuable to you, or less valuable to you, depending on how important it is to you to have the same taste as your friends or whether you consider their movie tastes similar to your own. 2) Courtship rituals of early-modern spain Her…

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