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Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Marijuana actually impairs memory and learning http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn10607

I wonder which of the following describes best the downvoter's reasoning: a) The study is flawed, thus it shouldn't be cited b) You misinterpreted the study c) The study is valid but it's bad news for me, so I decided to shoot the messenger.

or d) the messenger was paid to deliver only certain messages, whilst the other messengers were fired/never hired in the first place.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's correct, but we are now in a hypocritical situation. We can't say "history made Nicotine legal, but let's pretend that THC is illegal for good reasons". Yes, there may be good reasons for an individual to not smoke pot, but that doesn't mean there are good reasons for keeping it illegal.

We can't say "history made Nicotine legal, but let's pretend that THC is illegal for good reasons" Good, because I didn't say that.

Well, you said that Tobacco is legal due to historical reasons (which implies that it's legal for bad reasons), so I assumed you were implying that THC is illegal for good reasons. I apologize.

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Wow, an entire article about the benefits of pot and working and no mention from this "Ph.D" about the difference between Indica and Sativa marijuana. For those too lazy to Google it, Sativa (usually grown outdoors) is great for working (think euphoria, and optimism), Indica (usually indoor) is for relaxing at the end of the day and "zoning out". Think 'body high' Those FUD commercials you see with the kids deflated…

This seems to be accurate, but I've never been able to find any scientific explanation for the difference in effect. I've heard it attributed to the different ratios of THC to CBD, but I can't find any articles/papers to confirm this.

There are also a number of analogs of THC present such as THC-V which is 500 times stronger than THC.

http://designer-drugs.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/t...

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Tobacco is a local industry. Marijuana is not. The US was built with the money from Tobacco, not Marijuana. So we can't criminalize Tobacco any more than Columbia can do away with cocaine or Afghanistan can out opium. Personally, I think that marijuana use is probably harmful, as is most drug use, but isn't worth the cost in criminalizing it.

> Tobacco is a local industry. Marijuana is not. You are kidding, right? Marijuana cultivation is one of the largest cash crops in the US (there is some question as to whether or not it is the largest, but there is no disputing the fact that it is in the top five.) > The US was built with the money from Tobacco, not Marijuana. The US was built with money from tobacco, sugar, and slavery. Not really a great mix for us…

Marijuana cultivation is one of the largest cash crops in the US

Maybe, but are Marijuana growers as dependent on their crop as Tobacco growers? Do they have as powerful a lobby? Are they as heavily taxed?

I've read that period documentation. "Hemp" is not marijuana as we know it today and it was grown for rope, not as a drug. It never did catch on though, the climate wasn't very good for it.

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Before anyone starts taking this guy seriously, consider the impact that drug use could have on your life in terms of the social effects rather than the drug itself. Being arrested for possession (or, worse, dealing) could invalidate you from easy worldwide travel (merely having been arrested - let alone charged - invalidates you from many visa waiver programs), numerous professions, and delay certain opportunities.…

In many states, possession of small amounts (more than a smoker would need at one time) isn't even a misdemeanor.

And with respect to the international community - many countries.

Canada's police turn a blind eye to it mostly, since the courts usually throw out the cases. But it creates a ridiculous situation where it is accepted and considered legal, but occasionally people trafficking large amounts are still prosecuted and face serious jail time. I really would prefer if it was legalized. This would reduce funds going to organized crime.

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Oh you poor baby! You have trouble reading and writing and 'rithmetic, so you need a little chemical help. You pussy. Get out of cocoon, er I mean school, get a real job, get married. have a couple of kids, get a mortgage and a couple of car payments, raise those kids without worrying too much about the evils around them, visit Mom in her nursing home, do things for others in need, and, if you have time, have a nice…

You have trouble reading and writing and 'rithmetic, so you need a little chemical help. You pussy. You still get your name published, regardless of "chemical help" or not. Who are you again? Get out of cocoon, er I mean school, get a real job, get married. have a couple of kids, get a mortgage and a couple of car payments, raise those kids without worrying too much about the evils around them, visit Mom in her nursi…

You still get your name published

So what?

Why should he make the choices you did?

I never claimed that I made those choices. But lots of people have. And they're not blogging about how they need drugs to get through their day.

Why is going to work every day so important?

Never started a business before, huh?

what's worse is a whining adult. Nobody actually cares about your car payments or kids.

OP isn't an adult? I don't have a car payment or kids. And if I did, I certainly wouldn't blog about how I used drugs to deal with them.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Let me guess edw519, you probably...* You guess wrong, josefresco. But it doesn't really matter anyway because I never "advertised" my habits to the world. This guy did. Just slightly ignorant as I pointed out above. Ignorant I can live with. But this was also irresponsible. This is hacker news, where people post and learn and share together about doing difficult and exciting work. I realize that OP had no idea wher…

You guess wrong, josefresco. You've never had a cup of coffee or tea, or a soda? Yeah right.

My point as that THC is a 'substance' and should be considered like any other substances which are both beneficial and harmful to our bodies. Our society gives a pass to some substances and not others based on no real data. It seems a bit hypocritical to rail against marijuana yet we have no issues with other substances that many "rely" on to function (nicotine, alcohol, caffeine, sugar etc.)

I'm more concerned with my Coca Cola (sugar/acid) intake than THC. I, unlike many Americans don't compartmentalize these substances and don't prescribe to the drugs=bad (unless Pfizer prescribes them) thinking.

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You guess wrong, josefresco. You've never had a cup of coffee or tea, or a soda? Yeah right.

No. Beer yes. But coffee, tea, or soda, why bother?

I enjoy coffee, tea and soda. However - my body seems to have a really high tolerance for caffeine, and I dont usually have much of them during the day. So I enjoy the taste of all 3, but don't get the caffeine boost some people do.

A friend of mine has the opposite situation - she can't have any caffeine after noon or she will be up all night.

Anyways...I enjoy consuming all 4. I suppose my vice is tasty liquids.

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The comments here are interesting. I think some people get upset as soon as they hear the name of an illegal drug, and instantly get ultra-defensive. You'd think people that claim to be among the most intelligent wouldn't immediately make such an emotional judgment. After all, when is the government ever right about anything? What they consider legal or illegal should not affect your judgment; 50 years ago it was ess…

Thank you for this comment BTW, refreshing to see someone with such an open mind.

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That's an ad hominem argument write large. You can't dismiss a study just because it was funded by someone you disagree with. You have to take it on its own terms. If the study is flawed, show the flaws, if not, it shouldn't matter who funded it.

Funding, like all procedures and data used in the study is very relevant. In a perfect world it wouldn't, but sadly who is paying the bills often dictates the results of these studies. In that perfect world, there would also be scores of scientists who are paid to analyze studies like this to prove/disapprove the conclusion, but again our imperfect system means funding for intelligent study of Marijuana is severely l…

If the data is there, show it. I'm open. I think that the 'drug war' is a total waste of time and money, and that having one fewer red-herring for the police to chase around can only be a good thing.

But you can't dismiss a study just because it was funded by biased people. All people are biased. It's up to you to attempt to look past the bias to see what is genuine, and to see to it that your own viewpoint is expressed.

There are plenty of well funded liberal and libertarian groups that would be more than willing to fund the kind of research that you want. In fact I've seen stuff by Cato that would be right up your ally. You'll do far more good by finding this stuff than by criticizing the only studies being presented.

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