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Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by b-x »

albntomat0 wrote: post #34
b-x wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "This AI stuff is dangerous to world" It's not exactly that, their rhetoric is: "This AI stuff is dangerous to world if YOU use it. But when we use it, it is good." All entities think that they hold the key to good values, while the others are always suspected of hiding vile intentions.

That's a stronger opinion about their views than necessarily is true. Based on their actions, OpenAI seems to (rightly, in my opinion) view that some people would misuse GPT-3/etc, even if the majority would not.

> [...] that some people would misuse [Insert any tool here]

Following this logic, one would forbid schooling to lads based on the suspicion that they may "misuse" what they will learn to do some evil. One would use the alphabet to write threats to others. One would use a knife to stab others. So how do you police the right to access the knowledge? Should we restrict accessing knowledge to some few elites that some authority should decide who they are?

IMHO knowledge should be accessible to all. The accumulation of the humanity knowledge should not be controlled by an Orwellian entity. Otherwise, let's start a movement demanding to wipe online universities courses from the Internet

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by lanternfish »

foldr wrote: post #49
lanternfish wrote: post #18

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Yes. If you few-shot prime it with prompts of the form " tag: " and then just feed it " tag:" it'll generate automatically, just from completion. It does this shockingly well, the paper has specific examples. It can also do fun tricks like condensing a complicated Wikipedia article down to a second grade level, including built in metaphors. An example of this is on the API beta website IIRC.

That doesn't demonstrate comprehension in any interesting sense. You don't necessarily have to comprehend a text in order to generate a plausible nonsense continuation of it.

The point is that it's not nonsense, but a useful and contextual continuation which encodes some level of comprehension (unless you mean a different thing by comprehension than I do). Look at this demo for an example: https://beta.openai.com/?demo=2.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

steev wrote: post #55
joelg wrote: post #43

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> At some point a company needs to make money :-/ OpenAI started as a non-profit.

The Girl Scouts are a non-profit yet they don't give their cookies away for free.

Girl Scouts USA has been a textbook example for decades now of an institution that misuses non-profit status for financial gain.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by chrisco255 »

eggsnbacon1 wrote: post #73
eightysixfour wrote: post #45

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Non-profit does not mean “spends money in perpetuity with no revenue.”

that's not what happened with OpenAI though. They're not a non-profit anymore, they changed to a "controlled profit" (lol) model. I didn't know this was even possible/legal. Start as a non-profit for all the tax advantages and convert to for-profit once you've got a saleable product? Maybe startups should start doing this

What's the point? If your business doesn't turn a profit then you don't owe business income taxes anyways. Most businesses take several years to reach profitability.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by icebergwarrior »

metafunctor wrote: post #41
ypcx wrote: post #32

GPT-3 is (the process of) general AI being born in front of our eyes, catching us unprepared, making us realize that the we may be a bit rigid in understanding of what intelligence really means. If primed correctly, can GPT-3 produce worthwhile improvements to its own paper or implementation? Can GPT-3 be made to prime and query itself in a loop, by asking it to produce a better query for itself? Can its knowledge be…

Nope. The simple and safe answer to all those questions is certainly “no”. GPT-3 not intelligent in the way we most of us would describe intelligence.

I don't think you can make such definitive statements.

GPT-3 is certainly intelligent the way a lot of us would describe intelligence. It can produce content in a way this is indistinguishable from humans.

We don't know what else it can do. We don't know the pace of improvements happening here. There are a lot of open questions.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by [deleted] »

gas9S9zw3P9c wrote: post #11

Someone asked for a more nuanced perspective, so here we go. For a lot of AI researchers, OpenAI has been a huge disappointment. We had hope that OpenAI would be the company to democratize AI with good open source work, transparency, no PR bullshit (aka DeepMind), and evangelism. That they would develop in the open, and perhaps even do research in the open. You know, kind of like the name says. It all started out oka…

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Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by foldr »

lanternfish wrote: post #92
foldr wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't demonstrate comprehension in any interesting sense. You don't necessarily have to comprehend a text in order to generate a plausible nonsense continuation of it.

The point is that it's not nonsense, but a useful and contextual continuation which encodes some level of comprehension (unless you mean a different thing by comprehension than I do). Look at this demo for an example: https://beta.openai.com/?demo=2 .

Sometimes the continuation makes sense, but this is just by chance. It's just nonsense text in the style of the original. There's nothing that prevents internal contradictions. It's just that often these will be absent by chance, or because the output contains regurgitated chunks of coherent text written by humans.

OpenAI are, like most AI researchers, utterly shameless in encouraging overinterpretation and wishful thinking.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by evc123 »

gas9S9zw3P9c wrote: post #11

Someone asked for a more nuanced perspective, so here we go. For a lot of AI researchers, OpenAI has been a huge disappointment. We had hope that OpenAI would be the company to democratize AI with good open source work, transparency, no PR bullshit (aka DeepMind), and evangelism. That they would develop in the open, and perhaps even do research in the open. You know, kind of like the name says. It all started out oka…

What is the business model of HuggingFace?
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