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Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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I wouldn't put the focus on it being ONLY 850k, that seems a competent price, I would really like to know how in the world they spent 11M on the uk one...

That’s like 4 SV devs working a year. And just in salaries, not including payroll taxes, office space, admins, QAs, etc. 850k sounds eminently reasonable for such an undertaking in such a short period of time.

That's what I'm saying, it's the 11M that's not reasonable...

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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The "worlds most famous" claim is from the website and not the poster

It says worlds most successful, which I presume is referring to the fact that nearly 30% of the population with compatible devices have downloaded it. EDIT: added the 'with compatabile devices' disclaimer

That’s a little misleading though because the percentage of people who install the country’s contact tracing app is driven much more by the quality of the people than the quality of the app. So this app might be garbage, I don’t think this statistic says much one way or the other.

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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post #6
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The "worlds most famous" claim is from the website and not the poster

It says worlds most successful, which I presume is referring to the fact that nearly 30% of the population with compatible devices have downloaded it. EDIT: added the 'with compatabile devices' disclaimer

That's around 1.5 million downloads.

Meanwhile, Play Store says India's Covid tracing app was downloaded by more than 100 million+ people.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nic.goi.aarogy...

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s like 4 SV devs working a year. And just in salaries, not including payroll taxes, office space, admins, QAs, etc. 850k sounds eminently reasonable for such an undertaking in such a short period of time.

That's what I'm saying, it's the 11M that's not reasonable...

I wasn't intending on disputing your statement but merely adding to it. Apologies if it came across that way.

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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post #6
post #2

The "worlds most famous" claim is from the website and not the poster

It says worlds most successful, which I presume is referring to the fact that nearly 30% of the population with compatible devices have downloaded it. EDIT: added the 'with compatabile devices' disclaimer

There's roughly about 1.3M downloads out of an adult population of 3.7M people, so about 35% of the eligible population.

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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Isn't this just a meaningless ad?

The company is part of the development. Afaik many apps are open source. "Donating it" means offloading the support and profit from Linux Foundations status.

Nearform is involved in integrating the backend into the countries health system... so they offload the app and just do the work that gets paid well. ?

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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Isn't this just a meaningless ad? The company is part of the development. Afaik many apps are open source. "Donating it" means offloading the support and profit from Linux Foundations status. Nearform is involved in integrating the backend into the countries health system... so they offload the app and just do the work that gets paid well. ?

It is PR - maybe I should have linked to the HSE's press release: https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/media/pressrel/covid-tr...

The app has been open sourced by the Irish Government, not Nearform who were the developers. The copyright is owned by the HSE (the Irish public health authority).

The app being open source does benefit Nearform, though, as they can sell their services customising the app for other governments.

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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post #12
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says worlds most successful, which I presume is referring to the fact that nearly 30% of the population with compatible devices have downloaded it. EDIT: added the 'with compatabile devices' disclaimer

That’s a little misleading though because the percentage of people who install the country’s contact tracing app is driven much more by the quality of the people than the quality of the app. So this app might be garbage, I don’t think this statistic says much one way or the other.

> the percentage of people who install the country’s contact tracing app is driven much more by the quality of the people

That sounds strange. Explain more?

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't put the focus on it being ONLY 850k, that seems a competent price, I would really like to know how in the world they spent 11M on the uk one...

I don’t know specifics about the UK version, but most of those costs likely weren’t on the app proper. They did run a field test, for example. For comparison, the German version cost millions, too. That included multi-language support, setting up help lines, security evaluation, load testing millions of concurrent users and, IIRC, connecting to quite a few of different hospital computer systems. Add in time pressure,…

It also includes the DPIA, which in itself can be an expensive process. There was a lot of concern/press in Ireland pre-release about the privacy implications of the app. It's hot on the heels of a "mandatory but not compulsory" national ID card fiasco that was determined to be unlawful by the privacy regulator last year: https://www.thejournal.ie/psc-no-legal-basis-4766822-Aug2019...

Re: Ireland donates contact tracing app to Linux Foundation

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a little misleading though because the percentage of people who install the country’s contact tracing app is driven much more by the quality of the people than the quality of the app. So this app might be garbage, I don’t think this statistic says much one way or the other.

> the percentage of people who install the country’s contact tracing app is driven much more by the quality of the people That sounds strange. Explain more?

You could write the cleanest, most bug-free and user-friendly app, release it in the US, and likely never see this level of adoption (I believe is the point that is being made here).
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