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Re: Things Unexpectedly Named After People

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OK, well, I am taking cognomen as surname, as is common when referring to him today, by nomen + cognomen. Never met the man or had the joy of calling him Gaius. There are modern people today with a surname of Caesar. Somehow, the name of the late celebrity Sid Caesar pops up for me. Wikipedia has more: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(surname) -- and I know of other languages where their cognate for Caesar is…

> I am taking cognomen as surname, as is common when referring to him today, by nomen + cognomen. Huh? "Caesar" is how he's generally referred to, almost certainly because the form of address to every Roman emperor was "Caesar", after him. But there's no indication that it is taken to be his surname. That would be ridiculous. There is no pattern for the common English name of a Roman figure: - Virgil: nomen - Ovid: n…

You seem to have ignored most of my comment for this discussion.

Re: Things Unexpectedly Named After People

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Heartbreaking but what a wonderful way to memorialize her. Thanks for sharing.

6 year olds dying of brain cancer is my best evidence for the non existence of God

I'm surprised that should he exist, everyone assumes he is obligated to interdict himself in the affairs of men. If I'm honest, it's a little arrogant of us.

Re: Things Unexpectedly Named After People

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> I am taking cognomen as surname, as is common when referring to him today, by nomen + cognomen. Huh? "Caesar" is how he's generally referred to, almost certainly because the form of address to every Roman emperor was "Caesar", after him. But there's no indication that it is taken to be his surname. That would be ridiculous. There is no pattern for the common English name of a Roman figure: - Virgil: nomen - Ovid: n…

You seem to have ignored most of my comment for this discussion.

I can respond to the rest of it. I wanted to know where the idea that it's common to view the cognomen as a surname came from. It's bizarre.

> There are modern people today with a surname of Caesar. Somehow, the name of the late celebrity Sid Caesar pops up for me. Wikipedia has more

Not really relevant when the claim was that (1) Little Caesars is named after someone's surname; and/or (2) Caesar was Julius Caesar's surname. Both of those claims are obviously false.

> yes clearly, McDonald's and Hardee's are named for surnames.

But I've been saying this whole time that "Taco Smith" is not similar to "Taco John's", because "Taco John's" is named after a notional owner, Taco John, whereas you couldn't call someone "Taco Smith". (And of course, even if you did, you wouldn't expect the restaurant to have the same name as the owner.)

McDonald's and Hardee's are not evidence that anyone ever referred to anyone as "McDonald" or "Hardee". They're names, not nicknames.

> But yes, it is common to address people by their last name as a nickname. I seem to recall it was especially common back in school, something guys did kind of informally. Plenty of reasons explained here: https://www.google.com/

This isn't common at all. What country are you thinking of?

Re: Things Unexpectedly Named After People

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The Loyal Heights neighborhood in Seattle. According to Wikipedia, "established by businessman Harry Whitney Treat in 1906 as part of the independent city of Ballard. Named for his daughter Loyal Graef Treat ..."

The Loyal Heights neighborhood in Seattle, named after the developer's daughter, Loyal Graef Treat.

Re: Things Unexpectedly Named After People

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There is a long list of tautological place names, most often where multiple languates are ised in the name. "Rio Grande River" means "Big River River" ( rio being river and grande big). "Kill" is Dutch for creek (e.g., Fishkill). "Avon" is Celtic (Gaelic, Irish, Welch) for river (River Avon). "Hatchie" is Choctaw for river (Loosahatchie River) "Mississippi" is Anishinaabe for "big river". Similarly Mekong, Cuyahoga,…

The best example of this is Torpenhow Hill in Cumbria, England. Torr, penn, and howe all mean “hill” in different languages.

There are several such triples:

- Eas Fors Waterfall

- Deschutes Falls, Tumwater, Washington

- Lochmere Lake, Cary, North Carolina

- Bredon Hill, Pendle Hill, (hill hill hill)

- Nesoddtangen (cape cape cape)

- Wookey Hole Caves (cave cave cave)

Lake Semerwater is a near-quad: lake lake lake water.

Then there are double doubles: The La Brea Tar Pits (the the tar tar pits).

Re: Things Unexpectedly Named After People

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Whenever I think of Guy I think of that one Guy from Galaxy Quest. I don't know if he even had a last name though.

Guy Fleegman

I like to think of him as Crewman number 6.

Re: Things Unexpectedly Named After People

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I've never heard the term Cali-Mex, but I'd say that Taco Bell is way closer to Tex-Mex than any other taco places in SoCal, which are generally much more authentic.

Taco Bell isn’t Tex-Mex, it’s corporatized and white-washed fast food. You won’t find Tex-Mex in California... that’s kind of the point. I appreciate many different cuisines, so I am not saying Tex-Mex is better than Cali-Mex, just that they’re different. Bringing Taco Bell into the equation and saying it’s representative is deeply insulting to Tex-Mex, however.

My favorite "Tex-Mex" is from SLC, Utah. "Ute-Mex"?
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