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The German Problem with Tor

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Re: The German Problem with Tor

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Why all the hate for Germany specifically? Pretty much no gov out there likes TOR nodes. The fact that there are ton in Germany any seems like something that should be applauded

Re: The German Problem with Tor

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post #2

Why all the hate for Germany specifically? Pretty much no gov out there likes TOR nodes. The fact that there are ton in Germany any seems like something that should be applauded

> The high number of high-speed relays and exits in Germany mean that it is not too uncommon to get both a German guard and exit. This gives the state an easier time if they want to target someone using traffic correlation attacks.

> That also does not take in account the planned German law that will allow authorities to redirect traffic to state-owned servers, to infect users with viruses/Trojans. This is especially a concern for third-world users of Tor who are going to mainly accessing non-HTTPS sites on a computer without the best security.

Did you read the article in its entirety?

Re: The German Problem with Tor

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"In reality, the German government has a double standard when it comes to the right to privacy. They will fully support that right if it's company's violating your privacy (especially, if they are American because protectionism) but in contrast, the German will give itself as many powers as it can to spy on its own citizens and those abroad." This.

Re: The German Problem with Tor

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Recommending to host an exit node in Switzerland in the context of TOR feels like reading an article of someone who thinks they are anonymous by using TOR.

Switzerland is even more privacy invasive than German laws, and that is the case since 2010 when automated connection tagging was introduced for VND and VÜPF.

Re: The German Problem with Tor

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German here. Let's just say our population, especially the nerds, is way more competent than our Conservative governments of "internet printers" who have implemented the shit legislation that is the point of this article.

Want to know names? Wolfgang Schaeuble, Thomas de Maiziere, Horst Seehofer.

To the Germans on HN: Go to the elections, vote these morons out of office no matter if state or federal elections.

Re: The German Problem with Tor

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post #4

"In reality, the German government has a double standard when it comes to the right to privacy. They will fully support that right if it's company's violating your privacy (especially, if they are American because protectionism) but in contrast, the German will give itself as many powers as it can to spy on its own citizens and those abroad." This.

Isn't that government by default?

We carve out privacy exceptions for law enforcement in given situations where otherwise we would expect them to be respected.

Re: The German Problem with Tor

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German here. Let's just say our population, especially the nerds, is way more competent than our Conservative governments of "internet printers" who have implemented the shit legislation that is the point of this article. Want to know names? Wolfgang Schaeuble, Thomas de Maiziere, Horst Seehofer. To the Germans on HN: Go to the elections, vote these morons out of office no matter if state or federal elections.

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Re: The German Problem with Tor

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post #2

Why all the hate for Germany specifically? Pretty much no gov out there likes TOR nodes. The fact that there are ton in Germany any seems like something that should be applauded

Germany is an interesting case for TOR. I did some statistical analysis on TOR data (they publish a lot of data) from around when Snowden made his revelations, and many countries saw increased TOR activity while German activity went down versus the trend. I don't remember the numbers off the top of my head (have them in a PDF somewhere) but my theory is that Germany doubted the security of TOR at that time. Maybe the intermittent crackdowns on TOR in Germany are based on a mistrust of the project's security/integrity, rather than simply an effort to keep internet traffic out in the open.
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