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Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by jermier » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:52 PM UTC

Very soon everything will exist cryptographically on some uncensorable blockchain, and websites & files will exist on the Interplanetary Filesystem[0] and will be impossible to take down. And 'things' will all be categorized and have their own QR code which when scanned, will reveal the context (or even price!) of the item.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

#12

Post by londons_explore » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:53 PM UTC

Site down... Shows ReCAPTCHA in an infinite loop...

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by anonymfus » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:54 PM UTC

njsubedi wrote: post #2

>The whole investigation took me 5 minutes. A Web search, a few clicks, and some ctrl+f’ing. Am I the only one who thinks the last phrase sounds weird? I might be used to reading lots of articles that sensor words, but couldn't help reading it as "control-fucking". (Edit: uncensored)

I read what you wrote as "control-finding".

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by Trufa » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:54 PM UTC

Completely tangential, I never understand why people use URI instead of URL. He obviously means URL and goes an abstraction lower. You could also say without the corresponding internet uniquely scheme or whatever.

Sorry for the rant. But I am missing something?

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by dontcarethrow2 » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:54 PM UTC

I would've agreed with this a bit more if we hadn't started banning content we don't like from the internet. Here I am without a link, but chasing away groups we don't agree with to the dark side of the web makes it very convenient for the current political saints to shape our views. I take any claim with URIs or without, try to think about who gains from such perspectives, weigh it with past experiences. I'd hate to just see a URI and go "OK, I am convinced ty" and automatically pick up the pitchforks against those without. I doubt even newspapers did this. It sounds like a good idea but only on an open internet and not what we have today.

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by dsun179 » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:55 PM UTC

jermier wrote: post #11

Very soon everything will exist cryptographically on some uncensorable blockchain, and websites & files will exist on the Interplanetary Filesystem[0] and will be impossible to take down. And 'things' will all be categorized and have their own QR code which when scanned, will reveal the context (or even price!) of the item. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System

I do not think so. Most of my ipfs bookmarks from 2 years ago are offline now, everything gone because no peer has the content.

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by ben509 » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:57 PM UTC

black_puppydog wrote: post #8

Zhyl wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Ctrl+F seems to be more popular than 'grepping' these days, although I would very much be in favour of bringing 'grepping' back.

there's just so few people who still grep through website code directly. :P

In Firefox the / key is bound to quick find, so it's there in spirit.

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by corty » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:57 PM UTC

Trufa wrote: post #14

Completely tangential, I never understand why people use URI instead of URL. He obviously means URL and goes an abstraction lower. You could also say without the corresponding internet uniquely scheme or whatever. Sorry for the rant. But I am missing something?

The difference between URI and URL is practically meaningless except to a very small circle of specialists. Noone uses the name "URI", even when they are talking about one. Except if they explicitly want to signal their membership in that circle of experts.

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by noman-land » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 1:02 PM UTC

dsun179 wrote: post #16

jermier wrote: post #11

Very soon everything will exist cryptographically on some uncensorable blockchain, and websites & files will exist on the Interplanetary Filesystem[0] and will be impossible to take down. And 'things' will all be categorized and have their own QR code which when scanned, will reveal the context (or even price!) of the item. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System

I do not think so. Most of my ipfs bookmarks from 2 years ago are offline now, everything gone because no peer has the content.

FileCoin just recently launched and it aims to fix this exact problem.

Re: Any claim without a URI should be treated as suspicious

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Post by _Microft » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 1:05 PM UTC

ben509 wrote: post #17

black_puppydog wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's just so few people who still grep through website code directly. :P

In Firefox the / key is bound to quick find, so it's there in spirit.

Firefox also allows to search without bringing up the search bar first by setting "accessibility.typeaheadfind" in "about:config" to true. Reducing the timeout for the search bar to disappear after the last keypress is very useful as well. This is hidden behind "accessibility.typeaheadfind.timeout".

Caveat: is messes with pages that use normal letters as keyboard inputs, like WASD as movement keys. One might need to disable it temporarily if that happens.