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Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by bananaface »

nexuist wrote: post #8

The problem is that OpenAI's motto is: "Discovering and enacting the path to safe artificial general intelligence." This does not mix well with very common AI tasks, such as facial recognition, deepfakes and deepnudes. With GPT-3 we are seeing levels of text comprehension and response that we've never seen in ML before. How can we abuse this? Well, we can conduct text-based gaslighting and manipulation on an unpreced…

An alternative explanation is that, like Google (and every other company out there), the motto doesn't reflect their actual objectives.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by dx034 »

londons_explore wrote: post #13
jcims wrote: post #6

One thing that frustrated me about this conversation at the time was that OpenAI explicitly stated right in the initial release announcement that that part of their rationale for the staged release process for GPT-2 was to force the conversation around releasing a powerful capability to the world. Basically a fire drill for the real thing. This was rarely acknowledged or discussed, it was almost entirely a combinatio…

To be fair, with a multi-terabyte model, the number of people who have the money to make use of the model is probably only a few hundred...

Rather a few thousands at least. Most larger companies have that amount of data (if they can use the model is another question).

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by londons_explore »

dx034 wrote: post #22
londons_explore wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, with a multi-terabyte model, the number of people who have the money to make use of the model is probably only a few hundred...

Rather a few thousands at least. Most larger companies have that amount of data (if they can use the model is another question).

Yep, but running inference on it at any reasonable performance requires you to have all of it in GPU RAM - Ie. you need a cluster of ~100 high performance GPU's.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by nullc »

occamrazor wrote: post #4

OP refers to GPT-2. OpenAI has since then published both the code and the trained model.

They did, but now there is GPT3 which is closed access API only and I'm not aware of any stated plans to publish that model.

On the plus side, if their claims about how GPT3 was constructed are truthful it should be possible for outside parties to reproduce it-- though at considerable cost.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by Donthatme »

csomar wrote: post #20

I believe, having worked a little bit with GPT-2, that OpenAI is intentionally sabotaging access to their AI algorithm and data. They have started this sabotage with GPT-2 and with GPT-3 they simply didn't open source it. For GPT-2, their repository ( https://github.com/openai/gpt-2 ) is archived. Which is as good as saying that the project is abandoned and will receive no updates. The project already doesn't compile…

I am not remotely in this field, and have not been following this closely at all. With that being said, what obligation do they have in maintaining GPT-2? Did they have some stated commitment that they walked back, or am I missing something else?

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Post by b-x »

csomar wrote: post #20

I believe, having worked a little bit with GPT-2, that OpenAI is intentionally sabotaging access to their AI algorithm and data. They have started this sabotage with GPT-2 and with GPT-3 they simply didn't open source it. For GPT-2, their repository ( https://github.com/openai/gpt-2 ) is archived. Which is as good as saying that the project is abandoned and will receive no updates. The project already doesn't compile…

> "This AI stuff is dangerous to world"

It's not exactly that, their rhetoric is: "This AI stuff is dangerous to world if YOU use it. But when we use it, it is good."

All entities think that they hold the key to good values, while the others are always suspected of hiding vile intentions.

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Post by throwaway743 »

csomar wrote: post #20

I believe, having worked a little bit with GPT-2, that OpenAI is intentionally sabotaging access to their AI algorithm and data. They have started this sabotage with GPT-2 and with GPT-3 they simply didn't open source it. For GPT-2, their repository ( https://github.com/openai/gpt-2 ) is archived. Which is as good as saying that the project is abandoned and will receive no updates. The project already doesn't compile…

> "This AI stuff is dangerous to world"

Replace "AI" with "fire" and it sounds even more ridiculous as a reason.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by rvz »

occamrazor wrote: post #4

OP refers to GPT-2. OpenAI has since then published both the code and the trained model.

Well, this message didn't age well as soon as GPT-3 was made as an API access model only.

It's getting harder to define 'OpenAI'. It is just another DeepMind, where they release the paper but never the model.

Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI

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Post by longtom »

I have long suspected that they are already being tightly controlled by the U.S. military. They obviously know what is at stake and they logically need to maintain AI supremacy. We are amidst of an AI arms race and it won't stop until we reach singularity or people start nuking each other to thwart a major cleansing operation with slaughter nanobots.
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