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> Any chance we can disassociate upvotes on articles from user karma? Or consider making it logarithmic. Something like pi * log(x) is geeky and would reward a good submission without going overboard.
That would reward making lots of mediocre submissions more than few good ones. I know which way round I'd prefer.
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It's also valuable because it eventually grants the ability to downvote. (It's annoying to see obvious trolls and spam sitting at 1 and not be able to do anything about it. I'm still a few hundred points away, unless the threshold has gone up again.)
How do you find out the threshold anyway? It seems like it's a mystery for some reason (unlike, SO for example, where it's all spelled out)
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It's also valuable because it eventually grants the ability to downvote. (It's annoying to see obvious trolls and spam sitting at 1 and not be able to do anything about it. I'm still a few hundred points away, unless the threshold has gone up again.)
Do you happen to know what the threshold is?
Proposal: 1. When a link is submitted, it doesn't actually appear on HN until a certain (fixed?) time T has elapsed after its first submission. 2. Everyone who submits it within that time is noted. 3. Karma from article upvotes is shared equally between all those users. (Or perhaps unequally in a way that weights earlier submitters slightly more highly -- but not winner-takes-all as at present.) 4. If the same link h…
On the other hand, I'm not clear if would slow things down that much, so much as delay. In any event, this isn't a breaking tech news source for many obvious reasons.
Why does HN give karma points for submitting articles? That's never made any sense to me. All it does is encourage this kind of behavior, where you submit everything you can find in the hopes of gaining points. You haven't really contributed anything valuable, since good articles tend to find their way here on their own. Karma for comments makes sense. You can look at somebody's average and it gives you a sense of wh…
Why does HN give karma points for submitting articles? That's never made any sense to me. All it does is encourage this kind of behavior, where you submit everything you can find in the hopes of gaining points. You haven't really contributed anything valuable, since good articles tend to find their way here on their own. Karma for comments makes sense. You can look at somebody's average and it gives you a sense of wh…
Why does HN give karma points for submitting articles? That's never made any sense to me. All it does is encourage this kind of behavior, where you submit everything you can find in the hopes of gaining points. You haven't really contributed anything valuable, since good articles tend to find their way here on their own. Karma for comments makes sense. You can look at somebody's average and it gives you a sense of wh…
You haven't really contributed anything valuable, since good articles tend to find their way here on their own. Most people submit articles in some part because they receive karma points for interesting submissions. It's not just by magic that good articles "tend to find their way here."
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Well, the hope would be to reduce the signal to noise ratio, so, in the event that something less popular comes up, it should have more time to be seen and appreciated. I would also venture that 'cutting edge' is HN's bailiwick, and therefore, it's really hard to get ahead of the tech curve here.
Ha. Don't tell the guys at Lambda the Ultimate that ;) Incidentally, i submitted a link ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2386915 ) about an hour ago, and after watching it depressingly fall off the first page of the new list, i think i'm giving up on ever submitting a link to HN again. What's so frustrating is that i can identify content that is good, and relevant (the link above is about open data, citizen acce…
1) Match peoples' interests
2) Write really really well
So, you can either submit articles like "BubbleTwit (YC '08) gets $14B in funding, announces Natalie Portman is new CEO" or you can just keep writing and writing and writing until you get really good.
I'm mostly suggesting this because it's what I wish I would do. I'm not that good yet.
I peeked at your post... I think it is a fascinating subject, but your title and opening paragraph don't work that well. "Sustainable" doesn't mean anything without context. Your opening paragraph doesn't really create any kind of desperate need. What is the specific crash going to look like? Paint us a picture of destruction, and then lead us out of it. Great writing grabs people and holds their faces in front of something real.
I don't doubt that you've got real things to show people, so just keep working on the craft, and you'll get there.
* When multiple bots submit the same link, "submission" is basically the same thing as "upvoting".
Why does HN give karma points for submitting articles? That's never made any sense to me. All it does is encourage this kind of behavior, where you submit everything you can find in the hopes of gaining points. You haven't really contributed anything valuable, since good articles tend to find their way here on their own. Karma for comments makes sense. You can look at somebody's average and it gives you a sense of wh…
It just foolish that some high profile story give someone lots of karma advantage then good commenters because someone submitted it first.