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Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by Sharlin »

Krasnol wrote: post #56
hindsightbias wrote: post #14

This article is confused. The cockpit crew will not be handing out drinks. Other pilot-rated employees will be acting as attendants. You can’t operate in the EU, US or Canada w/o someone attending in the back. You have to have so many attendants per passengers. Pilots are well qualified for any cabin duties. Many US pilots who have lost their rating or are going through a health issue that keeps them out of the cockp…

> This article is confused. Not only the article...Ms.Premack must be. Otherwise I can't understand why she went to the FAA and wasn't even ashamed of it so she even put their answer in there.

I presume she wanted to check if the FAA has authority on this issue on IcelandAir’s US routes in particular. Which is a fairly reasonable question for a layman to ask.

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by capableweb »

thg wrote: post #58
rhn_mk1 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes "Eskimo" not politically correct?

It's a rather demeaning term and means "meat devourer" or "meat muncher" (loosely translated).

That doesn't seem to be accurate. First, Eskimos and Inuits are not necessarily referring to the same people, and Eskimo seems to come from Algonquian and means "snowshoe-netter" or "to net snowshoes", at least as far as I gather from some quick searching.

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by bookofjoe »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #57
jchallis wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cooler. Some folks refer to this as an Eskimo, a non PC term for the Inuit.

What makes "Eskimo" not politically correct?

>Reports: Edmonton CFL club will drop 'Eskimos' name

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29482242/edmonton-cfl-c...

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by bookofjoe »

thg wrote: post #58
rhn_mk1 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes "Eskimo" not politically correct?

It's a rather demeaning term and means "meat devourer" or "meat muncher" (loosely translated).

>Edmonton to drop 'Eskimos' name

https://www.tsn.ca/edmonton-cfl-franchise-to-drop-eskimos-na...

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by vmception »

ornxka wrote: post #27
hindsightbias wrote: post #14

This article is confused. The cockpit crew will not be handing out drinks. Other pilot-rated employees will be acting as attendants. You can’t operate in the EU, US or Canada w/o someone attending in the back. You have to have so many attendants per passengers. Pilots are well qualified for any cabin duties. Many US pilots who have lost their rating or are going through a health issue that keeps them out of the cockp…

>The cockpit crew will not be handing out drinks. The mental image this gave me was amusing: >"Hey man, can you steer for a few minutes? I've gotta go push the drink cart." >"Sure thing dude, I'll get it next time."

"oh shoot I'm locked out of the cockpit! Magnus? MAGNUS!"

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by capableweb »

bookofjoe wrote: post #64
rhn_mk1 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes "Eskimo" not politically correct?

>Reports: Edmonton CFL club will drop 'Eskimos' name https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29482242/edmonton-cfl-c...

Not sure if I'm missing something, but the article never outlines what actually makes "Eskimo" offensive, just that sponsors think it is.

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by DanBC »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #57
jchallis wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cooler. Some folks refer to this as an Eskimo, a non PC term for the Inuit.

What makes "Eskimo" not politically correct?

https://www.uaf.edu/anlc/resources/inuit_or_eskimo.php

> Although the name "Eskimo" was commonly used in Alaska to refer to Inuit and Yupik people of the world, this usage is now considered unacceptable by many or even most Alaska Natives, largely since it is a colonial name imposed by non-Indigenous people. Alaska Natives increasingly prefer to be known by the names they use in their own languages, such as Inupiaq or Yupik. "Inuit" is now the current term in Alaska and across the Arctic, and "Eskimo" is fading from use. The Inuit Circumpolar Council prefers the term "Inuit" but some other organizations use "Eskimo".

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by javagram »

thg wrote: post #58
rhn_mk1 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes "Eskimo" not politically correct?

It's a rather demeaning term and means "meat devourer" or "meat muncher" (loosely translated).

FWIW, https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/04/24/4751295...

> But now there's a new theory. According to the Alaska Native Language Center at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, linguists believe the word Eskimo actually came from the French word esquimaux, meaning one who nets snowshoes. [. . .] But the correction to the etymological record came too late to rehabilitate the word Eskimo. [. . .] Many Native Alaskans still refer to themselves as Eskimos, in part because the word Inuit isn't part of the Yupik languages of Alaska and Siberia.

So it’s considered non-PC because for a while an incorrect etymology of “meat muncher” was used

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