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Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by cam_l »

ornxka wrote: post #27
hindsightbias wrote: post #14

This article is confused. The cockpit crew will not be handing out drinks. Other pilot-rated employees will be acting as attendants. You can’t operate in the EU, US or Canada w/o someone attending in the back. You have to have so many attendants per passengers. Pilots are well qualified for any cabin duties. Many US pilots who have lost their rating or are going through a health issue that keeps them out of the cockp…

>The cockpit crew will not be handing out drinks. The mental image this gave me was amusing: >"Hey man, can you steer for a few minutes? I've gotta go push the drink cart." >"Sure thing dude, I'll get it next time."

I remember the first time I flew in the mid eighties. The plane was a twelve seater, the pilot asked for one of the passengers to sit up front and 'be' the copilot. When it came time to hand out the refreshments, he would get the copilot to pull drinks out of the eski, and pitch the plane up so they could roll the drinks down the aisle.

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by runarberg »

lemmonii wrote: post #26

This is already outdated. Just now the cabin-crew union and Icelandair signed a new contract. I couldn't find an article in english but in another article they say that all layoffs will be reversed. https://www.visir.is/g/20201992741d/flugfreyjur-og-icelandai...

Same news, but from the the state radio:

https://www.ruv.is/frett/2020/07/19/samningur-flugfreyja-og-...

EDIT: And here is the news (in english from the state radio) about the controversial decision from the privately run Icelandair to lay of all its flight attendants because of the labor dispute:

https://www.ruv.is/frett/2020/07/17/icelandair-lays-off-all-...

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by [deleted] »

CydeWeys wrote: post #23
ashtonkem wrote: post #5

I would actually be surprised if that’s legal. Flight attendants perform some critical safety functions, they’re not glorified wait staff that can be replaced on a whim.

And that's why the flight attendants aren't being replaced by untrained randos; they're being replaced by pilots , who have even more training than flight attendants do. And yes, that training includes how to evacuate passengers and other relevant procedures, because this is already something that pilots can and do get involved in in emergency situations. Once the plane is down they have no further piloting needing d…

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Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by smnrchrds »

lemmonii wrote: post #26

This is already outdated. Just now the cabin-crew union and Icelandair signed a new contract. I couldn't find an article in english but in another article they say that all layoffs will be reversed. https://www.visir.is/g/20201992741d/flugfreyjur-og-icelandai...

What kind of deal did they get? Did they meet in the middle, or did the airline force them to sign a terrible deal?

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by tricolon »

cam_l wrote: post #31
ornxka wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The cockpit crew will not be handing out drinks. The mental image this gave me was amusing: >"Hey man, can you steer for a few minutes? I've gotta go push the drink cart." >"Sure thing dude, I'll get it next time."

I remember the first time I flew in the mid eighties. The plane was a twelve seater, the pilot asked for one of the passengers to sit up front and 'be' the copilot. When it came time to hand out the refreshments, he would get the copilot to pull drinks out of the eski, and pitch the plane up so they could roll the drinks down the aisle.

eski?

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by jchallis »

tricolon wrote: post #36
cam_l wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the first time I flew in the mid eighties. The plane was a twelve seater, the pilot asked for one of the passengers to sit up front and 'be' the copilot. When it came time to hand out the refreshments, he would get the copilot to pull drinks out of the eski, and pitch the plane up so they could roll the drinks down the aisle.

eski?

Cooler. Some folks refer to this as an Eskimo, a non PC term for the Inuit.

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by centimeter »

cam_l wrote: post #31
ornxka wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The cockpit crew will not be handing out drinks. The mental image this gave me was amusing: >"Hey man, can you steer for a few minutes? I've gotta go push the drink cart." >"Sure thing dude, I'll get it next time."

I remember the first time I flew in the mid eighties. The plane was a twelve seater, the pilot asked for one of the passengers to sit up front and 'be' the copilot. When it came time to hand out the refreshments, he would get the copilot to pull drinks out of the eski, and pitch the plane up so they could roll the drinks down the aisle.

It makes me sad that we've sacrificed many genuinely human moments like this to modernity.

Re: Icelandair letting go its flight attendants and shifting their duties to pilots

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Post by centimeter »

tricolon wrote: post #36
cam_l wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the first time I flew in the mid eighties. The plane was a twelve seater, the pilot asked for one of the passengers to sit up front and 'be' the copilot. When it came time to hand out the refreshments, he would get the copilot to pull drinks out of the eski, and pitch the plane up so they could roll the drinks down the aisle.

eski?

Esky - it's a brand of cooler. Or just a generic term for "eskimo cooler".
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