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On Trouser Pockets

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Re: On Trouser Pockets

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, when I have a moment I'll rewrite that section. I clearly missed the mark tonally. At least I know folks read all the way to the end, I suppose.

I don't think you missed the mark. Some people just like military cosplay a lot and get offended when you call out what they're doing.

For the people who want a ton of pockets on their pants, cargo pants are pretty much the only option. Do you earnestly believe that all of these people "just like military cosplay"?

Edit: Or maybe I'm wrong, and there are other kinds of pants with many pockets.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

#134
post #115

Cargo pants are not the only pants with side pockets. I suggest that you take a look at hiking pants. Hiking clothing is my preferred kind, even if I am not hiking. Here are some arguments: - They tend to look neutral. Not flashy like other kind of sportswear, and not as obvious as cargo pants. - They are comfortable, reasonably durable, and low maintenance. They are made for hiking after all. - They tend to have ple…

Indeed! I have a few pairs of Prana Stretch Zion shorts (one of which I am wearing right now) and I can't really say enough about how great they are.

+1, I have them in shorts and pants, easily the most comfortable pair of shorts/pants I've ever worn. I literally never wear jeans any more not for style reasons, but because they are so uncomfortable.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

#135
Pockets on dress pants are placed right below the waistband not because someone thought that's the most convenient place for pocket access, but because it conceals them (there, they are hidden under a jacket. Or were, since no one wears a jacket and tie anymore). They're actually there because, indirectly, it's a LESS convenient place to put them.

They're also sewn in line with the outside seam, again to help conceal them.

Pockets are not a feature to showcase on dress pants, and in most cases take away from the formality of the garment.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

#136
This is a great overview and history of a sadly under appreciated problem. Well, actually a huge number of people suffer so they appreciate the problem but it is poorly discussed.

My only objection is so something in the coda:

> Cargo pants aren’t office-wear

I have been in the workforce for almost 40 years and have never worked somewhere where anyone would bat an eye at cargo pants.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

#137
I like the idea of rethinking an everyday item to make it more usable, while also attending to aesthetics. A lot of technologies could be improved by just writing down a list of "What's this thing really supposed to do?" And then, iterating on that list as the design evolves.

In the case of this article, I have three more feature requests:

1. The pocket should be narrow enough so the phone can't rotate sideways while it's in there. That's my biggest complaint about cargo or hiking pants, which is what I typically wear.

2. Pay attention to how the phone behaves while riding a bike. I don't want pants that require me to find a special place for my phone while I'm out and active. But the author's designs look like they stand a real chance.

3. The pocket should be slightly "hooked" on the inside, so my phone doesn't slide out during my nap. I owe two broken phone screens to this phenomenon.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

#138
post #2

>"Appendix: Sam, have you simply invented cargo pants? >No. Cargo pants are fashion-as-pretend-occupation — when not at work, wear a fancy chronometer to suggest you’re a pilot or a diver, or camo to suggest you’re in the military. Cargo pants are a paratrooper costume. Cargo shorts have giant external pouches so teenagers in the 90’s, trapped in school, could say (sartorially) “I go out into the world and do adventu…

Yeah, I felt somewhat slandered by the attack on cargo pants. I wore them in high school and still wear them to this day for comfort and convenience. There is a functional elegance of being able to have pens, a small note book, keys+wallet and phone in separate pockets easily accessible. It's like having a preponderance of tabs open, but for pants.

I like 5.11 tactical pants. They have enough pocket to carry things, but not so much pocket that it's all bulging out.

I just wish the phone pocket was big enough for the phablets.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

#139
post #50

Y'all are a little touchy about someone criticizing your cargo pants! Consider that perhaps his criticism hits a nerve because there is an element of truth in it - for most people (myself included as a younger person), the symbolism of cargo pants is as important as the function.

What is the symbolism of cargo pants?

Re: On Trouser Pockets

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed! I have a few pairs of Prana Stretch Zion shorts (one of which I am wearing right now) and I can't really say enough about how great they are.

+1, I have them in shorts and pants, easily the most comfortable pair of shorts/pants I've ever worn. I literally never wear jeans any more not for style reasons, but because they are so uncomfortable.

Try the Prana Bridger jean or Mugsy jeans. Feels like wearing sweatpants but still looks like denim.
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