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Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Whilst it's potentially interesting, this submission will probably get flagged by other users who can see that the flame value outweighs any curious discovery.

There are a few comments which follow the guidelines and encourage discussion though, but more that are quick to temper.

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Maybe these Portlanders should stop trying to burn down the federal courthouse.

My thoughts exactly. When they’re being violent and destroying things, does it really come as a surprise that they’re getting arrested?

This isn't about whether or not they get arrested. This is about certain ground rules and principles that the government must always uphold, even against unprincipled opponents.

Federal law enforcement officers, dressed in camo gear and without any identifying insignia, arresting and covering the faces of alleged rioters and stuffing them into unmarked vehicles and taking them God-knows-where is absolutely unacceptable.

These principles are what separates the government from the rioters. How are you going to hold the government accountable when you don't even know which government agency a certain police officer belongs to?

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And a garbage can was set on fire. And one or two windows smashed. But to hear it from Fox news, they think its the LA riots from '92.

Watch videos on Andy Ngo's Twitter feed. The Portland protesters are engaged in much more violent activities than setting a garbage can on fire.

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We were told to shut up and put away our guns because these things could never happen...

This is more evidence to add to the pile pro-2nd people have to never compromise. The last really bad one was police taking guns from people during Katrina. This is probably far worse. There's no way it is legal, and if it somehow is, it is more evidence of how badly out of touch with reality most judges are.

Maybe both sides should be pro 2nd amendment. And pro 1st amendment, and 3rd, 4th, 5th....

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And a garbage can was set on fire. And one or two windows smashed. But to hear it from Fox news, they think its the LA riots from '92.

Watch videos on Andy Ngo's Twitter feed. The Portland protesters are engaged in much more violent activities than setting a garbage can on fire.

Andy Ngo is a well-known liar and someone that literally sat around with people from the Patriot Prayer as they were planning to assault people. Many of whom are now on felony charges for assaulting people. None of which he reported or attempted to stop. Not to mention his history of doxxing victims.

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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If you’re looking to hear the other (pro-police) side of the story, I’d recommend checking out this video by YouTuber “Donut Operator”. He’s a former LEO and he makes pretty fair videos doing breakdowns of officer involved shootings and whether they were justifiable or not. He did some commentary on videos coming out of Portland. https://youtu.be/5EgMijMhS_U

What criteria are you using to determine his videos are "pretty fair?"

He doesn’t defend police that hurt innocent people. His video on the George Floyd death doesn’t make any excuses for the officers. Plenty of other examples where he says the cops are in the wrong.

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Ironically, giving ideological ammo to the protestors that the system is rotten to the core and needs to be completely replaced. Unmarked rented vehicles kidnapping protestors that lead to interrogations in a secret offsite location sounds a lot like the Stasi or Nazi germany. No one should be ok with this, ever. Where are the "second amendments against tyranny folks"? Oh, they probably support the police. Nice to se…

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Secret police snatching people off the street in unmarked vehicles is 100% police state / gestapo behavior. No one should be OK with it.

Unfortunately the way I see people defend this sorta stuff is that they tend to work backwards. They were detained because they are obviously criminals and they are obviously criminals because they are protesters and are guilty by association. Though I have a feeling that if any of the anti-mask protesters were treated like this you'd see sentiment change rather rapidly.

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Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watch videos on Andy Ngo's Twitter feed. The Portland protesters are engaged in much more violent activities than setting a garbage can on fire.

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He was beaten, punched and kicked by a mob of Antifa. It's all documented on video.

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Maybe these Portlanders should stop trying to burn down the federal courthouse.

Agreed. No rights for the suspected criminals!

Let's round them up all of the suspects and put them in a dark hole with no records of the detainment

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