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FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

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Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#101
"(FIRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE)- (CDnSE PRSE ONSE 74 NCBE)- (PRTSE PRSE ONER DE 75 NCBE)"

First Person I saw on the 71 bus? Second Person I saw on the 74 bus? Third Person I saw on the 75 bus?

When I saw those lines spelled out like that, I read them as above. Just kinda made sense. Looking at the rest.

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#102
If you replace the "N"s with and asterisk and "E"s with a slash you get something that looks like this:

  (M*D MK*\#R-*-STA-K*AR\) (ACSM)
  oTFR*\*Pt*S\WPBS\RCBB*S\*PRS\I*C
  PRS\*MRS\OPR\HLDWLD*CS\(TXFLFTCXL*C*\)
  AL-pRPPITXLYPPIY*CB\M\KS\i*CdS\PRS\
  WLDRCBR*S\*ToS*\*TXS\-CrSL\-CITRS\WLD*CB\
  ALWlP*CB\TSM\LrS\RLS\VRGLS*\AS*WLD*CB\
  (*OPFS\*LR\*CB\)*T\GDDM*S\*CUR\RcBR*\
  (T\W\ TFR*\ *CbrTS\ *CB\ I*G)-
    (FIRS\ PRS\ O*D\ 71 *CB\)-
    (CD*S\ PRS\ O*S\ 74 *CB\)-
    (PRTS\ PRS\ O*\R D\ 75 *CB\)
  (TF*GCMSOL\MRD\LUS\TOT\WLD*wLD*CB\)
  (194WLD'S*CB\)(TRFXC)

  ALP*T\GLS\-S\ \RT\
  YLS\ MTS\-CTS\-WS\-FRTS\
  P*RTRS\O*DRS\WLD*CB\
  *WLDXLRCMSP*\DVLDSTSM\XL
  DULMT6TU*S\*CB\XC 

  (mU*SARST\* MU *ARS\)
  KLS\-LRST\-TRS\-MKS\*-MRS\
  (SA\6*S\S\MRC\)

  *M*RCBRS*\PT\2pT\WSRCBK*s\
  86MLS\74SPRKS\29K\*O*OL\17SRTRS\
  356L\CLGs\ou*UTRf*KRS\PS\SHL\
  651MTCS\HTLS\*CUTCTRS*MR\
  {99.84.52} U*\P25\*CRS\AOKTS\*SKS\*rS\
  *SR\O*S\PVTS\WLD*CB\(JXORL)
  **MS\*RS\I*R*TR*TRL\RCBR*S\*TSRCRs*\
  LSP*S\*GSPS\MKS\RBS\*C\AVXLR
  HMCR\*MR\*CB\     1/2MU*DDLS\
  D-W-MIYMPL XDRX

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#103

If you replace the "N"s with and asterisk and "E"s with a slash you get something that looks like this: (M*D MK*\#R-*-STA-K*AR\) (ACSM) oTFR*\*Pt*S\WPBS\RCBB*S\*PRS\I*C PRS\*MRS\OPR\HLDWLD*CS\(TXFLFTCXL*C*\) AL-pRPPITXLYPPIY*CB\M\KS\i*CdS\PRS\ WLDRCBR*S\*ToS*\*TXS\-CrSL\-CITRS\WLD*CB\ ALWlP*CB\TSM\LrS\RLS\VRGLS*\AS*WLD*CB\ (*OPFS\*LR\*CB\)*T\GDDM*S\*CUR\RcBR*\ (T\W\ TFR*\ *CbrTS\ *CB\ I*G)- (FIRS\ PRS\ O*D\ 71 *CB\)-…

"(T\W\ TFR*\" Seems like shorthand for "Tuesday\Wednesday\Thursday-Friday"?

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do half of people claim to be above average? Because of illusory superiority. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority )

That would be why more than half of people claim this. I should have said "Why could half of people claim to be above the median ." Oh dear. I think I might be below average.

Better than having feeble kids, I guess.

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Excellent. I personally love this sort of thing, though I'm rarely successful. I was typing out the letters as I saw them, and I noticed that I interpreted many of your "S" as the number 5, but after looking at the way he wrote "S", it appears relatively consistent throughout the text. So letter groupings became interesting: SE - 66 matches RSE - 18 matches In the first document TFNRE appears twice. Here's my interpr…

(MnD MKNE#R-N-STA-KNARE) (ACSM) oTFRNENPtNSEWPBSERCBBNSENPRSEINC PRSENMRSEOPREHLDWLDNCSE(TXFLFTCXLNC*E) AL-pRPPITXLYPPIYNCBEMEKSEinCdSEPRSE WLDRCBRNSEnToSNEnTXSE-CrSLE-CITRSEWLDNCBE ALWlPNCBETSMELrSERLSEVRGLSNEASNWLDNCBE (NOPFSENLRENCBE)NTEGDDMNSENCURERcBRne (TEWE TFRNE NCbrTSE NCBE InG)- (FIRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE)- (CDnSE PRSE ONSE 74 NCBE)- (PRTSE PRSE ONER DE 75 NCBE) (TFNGCMSOLEMRDELUSETOTEWLDnwLDnCBE) (194WLD'SNC…

I think the 99.84 is a radio station

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#106
post #96

>One has to wonder though, if the FBI can't figure this out, who can? This is frustrating. Why would we assume the best people possible all work for the FBI? Is there nothing else the best people could be doing? We already know that everyone isn't hiring the top 1%

Please dont put the FBI on a pedestal

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#107

We know that he's had this "language" since he was a child so I'm going to go out on a limb here (and introduce no small measure of my own bias) and guess its not a cerebral cipher that will easily be unraveled by simple frequency of note correlation. I've likely got a touch of Asperger's myself and I know I have a bigger touch of synesthesia. I remember vividly during my childhood certain words being an explosion of…

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

Someone further down suggested that 71,74,75 might be a combination to a padlock.

I think in any case this points to it being directions of some sort. PRSE is probably a verb of some sort if those are infact directions.

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#108

We know that he's had this "language" since he was a child so I'm going to go out on a limb here (and introduce no small measure of my own bias) and guess its not a cerebral cipher that will easily be unraveled by simple frequency of note correlation. I've likely got a touch of Asperger's myself and I know I have a bigger touch of synesthesia. I remember vividly during my childhood certain words being an explosion of…

Check out a book called THE PHYSICIANS OF MYDDVAI. New York Public Library 1897: 71073 It is in Google Books. I notice the use of the appostrphys (sp) and certain letter groups appear throughout this book.

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#109

We know that he's had this "language" since he was a child so I'm going to go out on a limb here (and introduce no small measure of my own bias) and guess its not a cerebral cipher that will easily be unraveled by simple frequency of note correlation. I've likely got a touch of Asperger's myself and I know I have a bigger touch of synesthesia. I remember vividly during my childhood certain words being an explosion of…

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

As a lifelong St. Louisan, there are lots of drug problems north of St. Louis, which is where his body was found. And, basically any place across the river into IL is pretty nasty and full of hookers and crack. You have to drive a long way to get to civilization like the suburbs of Chicago. So, if I had to throw a guess out there about some random numbers that a dead guy was writing, I'm going to go with drug related in some way. Addresses, measurements, dollar amounts, something like that And, none of the numbers have any relationship to highways or streets in the area. But, there's a house with the address of 194 Orchard Drive and it happens to be located near highway 367 in between Alton and St. Louis, which is the only description of the location of the body that I've been able to find. Also, the house was sold in early 2000, six months after the body was found. It's all grasping at straws because, let's face it, random ciphers don't get you anything. You have to know more about the person than the FBI has said. It would help if they told us whether he was a known drug user, pimp, gang banger, or even an avid churchgoer, anything would be better than what they've done which is, "Here's this random string of letters and numbers with no context. Tell me what they mean."

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#110

We know that he's had this "language" since he was a child so I'm going to go out on a limb here (and introduce no small measure of my own bias) and guess its not a cerebral cipher that will easily be unraveled by simple frequency of note correlation. I've likely got a touch of Asperger's myself and I know I have a bigger touch of synesthesia. I remember vividly during my childhood certain words being an explosion of…

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

Or, Jesus, even how he died. I never saw anything about what actually killed him. A tap to the back of the head? Strangulation? The FBI is not being very smart if they actually want information from the public.
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