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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by 627467 »

hug wrote: post #463
627467 wrote: post #458

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The convincing justification is only one part of the argument. The other part is about freedom to challenge contemporary adtech and digital business models.. ie. Compute on my terms. Content creators and YouTubers are welcome to not serve me their content if I don't accept their trackers. It's not only about affording a modern smartphone: all these digital behemoths rely on us keeping up to date to their tech standar…

> Content creators and YouTubers are welcome to not serve me their content Except they are not. If you turn on an ad blocker and use YouTube, the creator of the content has no way to stop you.

That's odd. There's plenty of content creators that won't serve me anything unless I have: paid and/or have JavaScript turned on.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by 627467 »

themacguffinman wrote: post #475
627467 wrote: post #458

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The convincing justification is only one part of the argument. The other part is about freedom to challenge contemporary adtech and digital business models.. ie. Compute on my terms. Content creators and YouTubers are welcome to not serve me their content if I don't accept their trackers. It's not only about affording a modern smartphone: all these digital behemoths rely on us keeping up to date to their tech standar…

Sometimes I think of the freedom to challenge contemporary restaurant business models too.. you know, food on my terms . Restaurants are welcome not to serve me their food if I don't accept their bill, but I won't tell them upfront just like you. Let's not pretend this is about high-minded freedom; like everyone else in a free market, you're free to not consume the fruits of labor from content creators and YouTube. A…

> Restaurants are welcome not to serve me their food if I don't accept their bill, but I won't tell them upfront just like you.

What's the restaurant equivalent to me having to turn on JavaScript or disable my ad blocker?

> thought it was honest and interesting to raise the issue of self-interested piracy for low-income users.

Well, I touched you on that point (inequality). But it seems that I failed to touch you on the fact that digital users are entitled to run whatever they want on their computer.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by greggyb »

ss3000 wrote: post #472
ss3000 wrote: post #468

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> This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. Isn't it funny how one man's feature is another man's bug? Not supporting logging in with a Google account to keep subscriptions and history synchronized across devices is exactly what disqualifies it from consideration for me, and I suspect I'm not alone here. For those like me there's Y…

Piggybacking on my own comment, I'd love to hear if anyone has ideas on how to block Ads on a Chromecast...

Cast from a local PC on the network. View from a browser with uBlock Origin. I forget that YouTube even has ads most of the time. Using another person's device is always a painful awakening.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by greggyb »

ferzul wrote: post #509
dmos62 wrote: post #482

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Actually, that's the funny thing. I noticed that I could find videos that work, while others didn't.

i think monotised videos die easier than non-monotised ones. leave it long enough and they all die.

Monetized* or monetised for those with a British bent.

Unless you're talking aboit videos that had stereo audio that have been converted to mono. (;

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by horillagormone »

ss3000 wrote: post #468
drewg123 wrote: post #18

This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…

> This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. Isn't it funny how one man's feature is another man's bug? Not supporting logging in with a Google account to keep subscriptions and history synchronized across devices is exactly what disqualifies it from consideration for me, and I suspect I'm not alone here. For those like me there's Y…

More specifically stick to v14.21.54 of Vanced since otherwise you can see some ads now. I had updated to the latest one and started seeing ads below the video playing and when I am at the home page of my account.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by rasz »

product50 wrote: post #263
slim wrote: post #160

I hope the developers are here. I'm so grateful for this app and especially the support : Everytime YouTube obfuscates their API to take them down, they quickly publish an updated app that works. please donate : https://newpipe.schabi.org/donate/

I hope you realize that apps like these kill the ecosystem for content creators who are paid based on ads. If you don't like YT ads, pay for the premium version. But suggesting that this app is great is not right. Anyways, I trust if this becomes big, YT will kill them anyways. YT API requires keys and they know exactly what is going on here and can shut it down in a heartbeat if they want to. This is exactly what ha…

Watching ads on videos of my favorite youtuber translates to around 3 cents per year for him. I rather support them directly with merch/patreon.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by mucle6 »

elwell wrote: post #442
627467 wrote: post #428

I both pay for yt premium and use newpipe on older (degoogled) devices where using latest youtube.apk is not an option anymore. Also, where I live yt premium is a fraction of the cost of many developed countries, cheap for me but not for many in this country. In some countries yt premium is not even available. I read a lot 'entitled' opinions in this thread pretending that the whole world should ignore their circumst…

> why would you think that using open source software to access bits off of global internet is unethical/illegitimate? "It's just bits." That's a slippery slope. One might argue that circumventing the intended purpose of a platform in this way uses technological advantage to take advantage of content creators who are vulnerable. The kid who takes all the candy from the "Please take one." jack-o-lantern on Halloween i…

I really appreciate the humorous self awareness. It's a breath of humanity that I don't often see on the internet.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by aspenmayer »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #506
aspenmayer wrote: post #489

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https://twitter.com/appledry05/status/1256316190403764226

FilzaEscaped requires you to be jailbroken. I should have said that I was asking how users can acquire IPA files without having jailbroken their device first.

Oh, I’m sorry for that. I wasn’t trying to be unhelpful or pedantic or obtuse. I hope it’s still helpful to another.

I’ve used this to do other functions before, but not saving IPAs.

https://imazing.com/guides/how-to-manage-apps-without-itunes

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by charsi »

jdeibele wrote: post #454
elwell wrote: post #442

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> why would you think that using open source software to access bits off of global internet is unethical/illegitimate? "It's just bits." That's a slippery slope. One might argue that circumventing the intended purpose of a platform in this way uses technological advantage to take advantage of content creators who are vulnerable. The kid who takes all the candy from the "Please take one." jack-o-lantern on Halloween i…

I just spent a few hours at an elderly relative's house checking over her computer. She had her screen lock and a message on Chrome saying that she needed to "Call Microsoft" and she wasn't able to close the window, etc. So she called and "John Henderson" was able to talk her into installing LogMeIn. He then started about charging her $149 and she came to her senses and called me. I'm 99% sure that she was served som…

Firefox does DNS over HTTPS now. That should bypass DNS spoofing by any ISP.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by codetrotter »

horillagormone wrote: post #545
ss3000 wrote: post #468

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. Isn't it funny how one man's feature is another man's bug? Not supporting logging in with a Google account to keep subscriptions and history synchronized across devices is exactly what disqualifies it from consideration for me, and I suspect I'm not alone here. For those like me there's Y…

More specifically stick to v14.21.54 of Vanced since otherwise you can see some ads now. I had updated to the latest one and started seeing ads below the video playing and when I am at the home page of my account.

Interesting. Are those ads benefiting the creators of the videos or are they ads that only make money for the creator of Vanced?
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