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Re: Cloudflare was down

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It really defies the original vision of the internet to have so many services depend on a single company. Almost every news site I was reading dropped off at once. I thought for a second that I lost internet in my own house.

And the worst is if you try to raise concerns about cloudflare now it get brushed of as "cf already proxy half the internet, if it goes down our stuff will be minor concern".

That's true, but what's a free or low cost alternative for DDoS protection for a small webapp?

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Modern web is a completely broken mess. We were serving around that traffic off a single dual pentium 3 in 2002 quite happily off IIS/SQL Server/ASP. The amount of information presented has not grown either. That little box had some top tier brand main corporate web sites on it too and was pumping out 30-40 requests a second peak. There was no CDN.

You were not serving that traffic, you were just serving your core functionality - no tracking, no analytics, no ads, no a/b, no dark mode, no social login, no responsiveness. Are most of those shitty? Sure, just let me know when you figure out how to pry a penny from your users for all your hard work.

Dark mode and responsive webdesign are both good for the user and efficient for the server and user's device.

Re: Cloudflare was down

#494

Given that the US is basically in a non-shooting war with China, I wonder if this is something technical or part of some kind of attack. Something that I’d keep in mind.

There are enough ways for bits of the Internet to go kablooey on their own that “it’s an attack!” is a pretty big jump to a conclusion. If this turns out to be something other than Cloudflare tripping over a weird bug, my first guess would be that someone fat-fingered a BGP table yet again.

Update: Yep, BGP issue, though I was thinking it would be something on the public Internet rather than CF’s backbone.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Back in 2000 a joke project of mine got slashdotted. Ran outta bandwidth before anything else.

With DO, these days, they don't run me out of bandwidth, but my instance falls over (depending on what I am doing - which ain't much), but with AWS, they auto-scale and I get a $5000 bill at the end of the month. I prefer the former.

Yeah, the bandwidth overage was a grand, give or take. It was a valuable lesson in a number of ways, and why for any personal things I wouldn't touch AWS with a shitty stick.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Why not you? Just don't use CF. The more people stay away from CF, the better.

I feel like for a lot of sites CF & CDNs are the only way to survive Reddit/HN/etc - do you disagree? I definitely agree in concept with you, but then i think back to how frequently script kiddies took down sites ~10 years ago, or w/e. I feel like what has changes is the massive CDNs in front of so many sites. So while i do want a better solution, i'm not sure what it looks like. Thoughts?

> I feel like for a lot of sites CF & CDNs are the only way to survive Reddit/HN/etc - do you disagree?

Reddit/HN/etc will send all users to the same URL. Almost all of those users will come without any pre-existing cookies. Serving the same content to all those users should not be impossible for most sites without CF or a CDN.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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I consider DNS and the way how top level domains are handled to be one of the weakest parts of our current Internet design. We REALLY need a truly decentralized, distributed DNS system that is not owned by private entities.

DNS is decentralized, it's just not when everyone goes with one big service.

It might be decentralized, but how do you actually get a .com domain name without going through some kind of corporate gatekeeping or paying a fee?

Re: Cloudflare was down

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> master/slave That is what it _was_ called, it doesn’t have to be going forward.

How about we spend our energy fixing systemic/institutional racism first , because language will follow quite naturally. The other way around surely doesn't work, and is just symbolic gestures without actual change.

There is only so much i can do - i'm not american and thats a change i can't make on my own aside from doing my best to be an ally when possible.

However i can open a few PRs and use some of my time to make that change. It's a minor inconvenience to me and if it makes even one black person feel heard and supported then yea, i'm gonna do it.

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