I only keep youtube app for the livestreams. Livestreams on NewPipe don't allow you to replay back several hours behind.
NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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A decentralized video service powered by P2P, with content creators retributed by donations and/or ads and sponsorships inside videos.
Does this exist?
Let's make it linkable and embeddable, and anyone could run a server.
Perhaps we could call it the world wide web?
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All this is a reasoned argument - but advertising really sucks, it’s either overtly irritating you or covertly brainwashing you with visuals and voices you would never naturally care to see. Plus, the democratised ad platforms have led to random scummy people running their disgusting scams on forex trading or get rich quick schemes, or tech products that don’t work etc. being able to get in my face while I’m at home…
I agree with all your points. I would prefer more control over what ads are shown rather than blanket ad ban. There is no alternative way for companies to reach customers. Supporting Content Creators is not the same though. It just benefits two people in the equation: Content Creator and Consumer. This is not viable longer term as it depends on the Consumer being able to pay for the content offered by the Creator! An…
Companies dont have a God given right to exist, nor to intrude upon me with ads, targeted or not, nor are they entitled to my attention. I could not possibly care less what the company wants.
The only effect banning advertising will have is that businesses will have to find another way to attract customers.
As for companies not existing without advertising are you serious? Billboards or some other passive advertising could still be possible,or how about we all opt in to services we want to hear about.
Companies have existed before modern advertising and will exist after.
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I'm sorry, but a plain English reading of those Terms and Conditions shows that any users using 3rd party apps violates the terms. They are "accessing ... part of the Service or Content [without being] expressly authorized." To make it concrete, as an example, a user using youtube-dl is violating the terms. Not the makers of youtube-dl.
> They are "accessing ... part of the Service or Content [without being] expressly authorized." Are they though? AFAIK, law is very pedantic, and technically speaking, a human is physically incapable of accessing Youtube; we use tools to do so. We use some kind of software to access youtube.com, in this case, we are using an app that accesses youtube.com and relays the content on that page back to us. Similar to say,…
> technically speaking, a human is physically incapable of accessing Youtube; we use tools to do so
"Your Honour, technically I did not break the window. I had to use a rock as my agent, therefore the rock is guilty."
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My brain doesn't either :)
Many (most?) vision impaired people can.
i was once told vision impared people can do much faster than that if it's a flat computerised voice. so i started reading articles like that for a while. i had to do a bunch of manual/automatic handling, but i got it up to super fast speeds and i could read it thrice in less than the time it took to read it once. not bad!
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While I support the sentiment, you know that's not how all advertising works? CPM ads mean the publisher makes money because you saw the ad, regardless of whether you clicked on it (CPC). Even if you never click an ad or buy anything from an ad, you are still helping the publisher make money.
(I work in advertising, so yes I know how it works :) The hypothetical being discussed is "it's better to not use the service at all than to use it and block an ad". In this scenario, which impression would have been shown that now is not? Either way, no money is made by the content creator. The only way that person would make money is the third scenario which it seems you're talking about, whereby I use the service…
But such YT such the majority of any other service/work, isn't free: it requires a form of monetization in a way or another and YT uses advertisment. They have enourmous costs and they have much bigger revenues. If everybody blocks ads then they shut down.
You don't work for free, neither them.
I'm not a paladin of advertisment, simply saying those are their service conditions (that as a side effect provide money to content creators too).
Don't like their terms of use? Well, don't use their service.
Or adopt the other option they provide paying a premium account
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Piggybacking on my own comment, I'd love to hear if anyone has ideas on how to block Ads on a Chromecast...
You might want to consider setting up a Pi-Hole. Not sure how well those work with chromecasts though.
Chromecast uses Google DNS servers ignoring your DHCP DNS. You need to block Google DNS servers on your router so then the Chromecast will switch to your DHCP DNS.
Also, on my experience, some Youtube ads are served through the same domain that serves the video so you won't be completely ad free.
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Honest and serious question, if Youtube were to shut down tomorrow, do people think that whatever alternative (or even better, competing alternatives) would have a different model? I'm curious to know what exactly would you do differently if you were to make a replacement for Youtube.
Yes. Before youtube we just sent each other video files directly, posted them on our own websites, or found them with p2p software, all of which worked fine. Web services are traps promising ease of use, while actually aiming for lock in based on network effects. That so many people think the centralized third party hosting and bundled viewing software are critical to the general functionality just goes to show how i…
So much of what you write is true, yet ignores a vital value that the centralised websites do provide: discoverability. Not only does YouTube provide (sub-mediocre) search over all the [mb]illions of videos it hosts, it also is a hub: if I'm looking for a particular video/clip ("Leyla's Beans Advert from Futurama") the hub is the first place I'm going to search. These are really hard problems in usability that we need to solve to make a p2p/fediweb viable and attractive to use.
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By paying for premium you support a company whose business model is based on selling emotional manipulation (i.e. ads). You support a company that violates your right to use the software of your choice on your personal property. And you give in to extortion by paying for not being exposed to emotional manipulation. Paying for premium is the unethical option here.
> By paying for premium you support a company whose business model is based on selling emotional manipulation The corollary of that is that any interaction with such a company is unethical, since it encourages them to continue the manipulation on people who may not be as aware or resistant. I therefore assume you've routed YouTube.com to :: ?
can you do that on a phone?
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#520This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…
I've had it on my phone for some time, but 75% of the time it fails to play the video, complaining that it failed to parse the video page, or something similar. With youtube-dl, you have to keep it updated for it to not crash with similar errors, so might be a question of updates not being regular enough (I use F-Droid to update it). Also, suggestion capabilities of Youtube are very high. I'll always be coming back f…
same experience when i was on android (around v7) and f-droid.
it basically crashed/failed every time. i use ytdl quite a lot and updating it once every few months is sufficient ...