Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system • Hacker News Board

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#91

Post by tigershark » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:38 PM UTC

timr wrote: post #84

ivalm wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild The death rate alone is ~0.8%. There are another few percent that require hospitalization. The >99% of covid cases are not mild.

"The death rate alone is ~0.8%." It is not. The current estimates for IFR run from ~0.2-0.7%. The current best estimate of IFR from the CDC is 0.65%, with the deaths skewed heavily to the elderly and infirm. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena...

CDC estimate, just 1 week ago, before this catastrophic correction, was 0.25% or something similar. MONTHS ago we had the results from a huge Spanish study that put the mortality rate at around 1% and it was perfectly coherent with the Italian and New York studies. Why should we believe their current estimate when we have multiple results that actually give us a pretty high confidence of the actual mortality rate instead of looking at what seem like completely random figures?

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#92

Post by Consultant32452 » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:53 PM UTC

phaemon wrote: post #90

Consultant32452 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ah, I see you take the Trumpian line of "it's everybody else's fault except me!". It became political in your country because the dozy muppet you elected as president can't actually deal with anything. I'm pro-mask and anti-Trump. Let's be clear. The world's leading experts gave us mask advice that they knew was a lie and likely lead to the deaths of tens of thousands additional people. No one has been fired. No one…

You carry on the "draconian measures" until the virus is unable to spread and dies out. It's not magic. It spreads through human contact. Reduce contact you reduce transmission. You are in the same camp as Trump because you're spouting clueless crap as though it's authoritative. I'm perfectly happy to be "not participating in the conversation" because your conversation is moronic bullshit.

>You carry on the "draconian measures" until the virus is unable to spread and dies out. It's not magic. It spreads through human contact. Reduce contact you reduce transmission.

What does this look like in practice? Do you intend to keep every national border closed until the entire planet has eradicated the disease? How long do you expect that to take? Do you believe this is sustainable for 5 years? What about 20 years? Will you also be keeping the schools closed during this time?

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#93

Post by simion314 » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:48 PM UTC

Consultant32452 wrote: post #92

phaemon wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You carry on the "draconian measures" until the virus is unable to spread and dies out. It's not magic. It spreads through human contact. Reduce contact you reduce transmission. You are in the same camp as Trump because you're spouting clueless crap as though it's authoritative. I'm perfectly happy to be "not participating in the conversation" because your conversation is moronic bullshit.

>You carry on the "draconian measures" until the virus is unable to spread and dies out. It's not magic. It spreads through human contact. Reduce contact you reduce transmission. What does this look like in practice? Do you intend to keep every national border closed until the entire planet has eradicated the disease? How long do you expect that to take? Do you believe this is sustainable for 5 years? What about 20 y…

I think there are some countries that have no more cases, so each country would have managed same thing the issue can be solved, so a solution is to isolate only the countries that have a high risk.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#94

Post by tluyben2 » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:12 AM UTC

sosborn wrote: post #66

intotheabyss wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So where do you think you caught it? Seems strange that some people take all precautions and still end up getting it.

> some people take all precautions The problem is that "some" isn't enough. Everyone needs to work together. sigh

Fine people who do not; they do it here, it is effective.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#95

Post by tluyben2 » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:17 AM UTC

buzzert wrote: post #82

libertine wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm no doctor, but during this period I've experienced anxiety, and some of those symptoms match physical symptoms of anxiety. Nausea, headache, difficulty breathing, tight chest and neck (hell i've noticed even the fucking tongue was tight being pressed against the teeth and I didn't even realize that), tingling of hands/feet/arms, and during a spike you get confusion and you make poor decisions, heart bpm goes to 1…

Boosting this. I’ve had anxiety problems for years and it’s crazy how it can manifest as real physical symptoms. Every doctor visit always ends up with the same diagnosis: anxiety. Most recently I was 100% convinced I was having a retina detachment. Noticing a ton of “floaters”, sparkles in my vision, etc. Came back from a comprehensive examination at the eye doctor and the diagnosis was yet again, anxiety. After the…

> Boosting this. I’ve had anxiety problems for years and it’s crazy how it can manifest as real physical symptoms. Every doctor visit always ends up with the same diagnosis: anxiety.

I have been taken to the hospital (with blaring sirens) twice for anxiety mimicking heart attack symptoms. Completely checked out and walked out with a healthy heart and alprazolam. It happens only rarely but I carry a strip everywhere just in case as that is not fun.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#96

Post by bananaface » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 12:15 PM UTC

cs702 wrote: post #74

bananaface wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your conclusion about cardiac abnormalities is wrong, that's not what the study measured. They only looked at male patients aged 52-74, who were bad enough to be in hospital, and who had already been given an echocardiogram because there was an indicator, i.e. it's the subgroup that doctors deemed in need of a heart check because they were exhibiting symptoms like chest pain. The study indicates prevalence of abnorma…

Thanks. Corrected!

No worries. :)

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#97

Post by m0llusk » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:09 PM UTC

Observed blood clotting and prolonged low oxygen could explain much of this. Then add in the known toxic drugs being used in many cases. It could quite easily be that disease progression and treatment explain this without any direct action from the virus.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#98

Post by m0llusk » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:17 PM UTC

zaphod4prez wrote: post #43

HeroOfAges wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally only know of one person that has tested positive for Covid-19 and she recovered fully after about two weeks. Can you tell us more about the people you know that died due to Covid-19? General demographic info, like sex, age, that type of thing.

My good friend is a healthy & fit 24-yr old male. He bikes about 60-80miles every week, doesn't smoke or drink (ever), has no medical conditions, and takes no medication. He had a mild case a few weeks ago— tested positive for antibodies, felt like a really nasty flu plus trouble breathing but felt mostly better in 2 weeks. He is having persistent symptoms that are really affecting his day-to-day life. He experiences…

Just throwing this out there: Persistent symptoms are correlated with low vitamin D levels which are common.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#99

Post by jquery » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 5:34 AM UTC

pgo wrote: post #30

My family got corona positive last month, around the same time my brother started having some neurological issues. The doctors after seeing the MRI did not detect any issues. The same was confirmed by other radiologists and multiple other MRI scans over the month. Yet he faces these issues: nausea,headache,confusion,weakness,ataxia (unsteady walk) sensory changes, including numbness or tingling,trouble with vision (o…

Honestly that sounds like anxiety or stress to me. Your brother should be checked for that. It’s amazing what anxiety/stress can manifest as. Yes, it can cause powerful physical symptoms.