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Did anyone else see their ATT internet go down? The DNS issues started and then the Pace 5268AC rebooted. I don't use cloudflare for dns. Does ATT's backend?
On the contrary, ATT actually squats on the CloudFlare DNS IP address. IIRC that modem is one of the affected ones where it uses 1.1.1.0/24 internally. You shouldn't even be able to use CloudFlare DNS normally.
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Goodhart's Law[1] in action. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law
I've noticed everyone posts links in footnotes, is that just Hacker News etiquette?
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Modern web is a completely broken mess. We were serving around that traffic off a single dual pentium 3 in 2002 quite happily off IIS/SQL Server/ASP. The amount of information presented has not grown either. That little box had some top tier brand main corporate web sites on it too and was pumping out 30-40 requests a second peak. There was no CDN.
You were not serving that traffic, you were just serving your core functionality - no tracking, no analytics, no ads, no a/b, no dark mode, no social login, no responsiveness. Are most of those shitty? Sure, just let me know when you figure out how to pry a penny from your users for all your hard work.
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Modern web is a completely broken mess. We were serving around that traffic off a single dual pentium 3 in 2002 quite happily off IIS/SQL Server/ASP. The amount of information presented has not grown either. That little box had some top tier brand main corporate web sites on it too and was pumping out 30-40 requests a second peak. There was no CDN.
You were not serving that traffic, you were just serving your core functionality - no tracking, no analytics, no ads, no a/b, no dark mode, no social login, no responsiveness. Are most of those shitty? Sure, just let me know when you figure out how to pry a penny from your users for all your hard work.
Not a one trick marketoid pony.
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>* From my perspective, the "modern web" is absolutely insane. * Agreed. I was brought up as a computer systems engineer... So, not a scientist, but I always worked with the basic premise of keep it simple. I've worked on projects where we built all the fangled clustering and master/slave (sorry to the PC crowd, but that's what it was called) stuff but never once needed it in practice. Our stuff could easily handle s…
> master/slave That is what it _was_ called, it doesn’t have to be going forward.
The other way around surely doesn't work, and is just symbolic gestures without actual change.
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And that is why you host your status page on separate infra.
We're dealing with a deeper level problem here. Since a lot of the internet is relying on Cloudflare DNS at some part or another, even many backup solutions fail. Since so much of DNS is centralised in so few services, such outages hit the core infrastructure of the internet.
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> I don't use cloudflare DNS but google DNS and got the same problems thant everyone else Cloudflare is also the authoritative DNS server for many services. If Cloudflare is down, then for those services Google's DNS has nowhere to get the authoritative answers from.
Except the services mentioned in the original post have a ttl of 1h. Unlikely they would all go down at the same time.