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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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And yet you are the one who misinterpreted the sarcasm here. Look at your sibling comment.

Maybe you should read that sibling comment again? The part they marked "/s" was sarcasm, the sibling comment isn't saying otherwise.

A: all good comments about NewPipe are being downvoted

B: no, all bad comments about NewPipe are being downvoted

A: the votes have changed since I posted it so my comment is no longer relevant

Tell me again how they missed the obvious sarcasm.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Honest and serious question, if Youtube were to shut down tomorrow, do people think that whatever alternative (or even better, competing alternatives) would have a different model? I'm curious to know what exactly would you do differently if you were to make a replacement for Youtube.

I believe, based on conversations I've had, that the target audience of NewPipe overlaps with the target audience of solutions such as PeerTube, Mastodon, and other FOSS, privacy-centric alternatives.

Does PeerTube pay people? Or is the assumption that creators should get all their revenue from external sources?

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I don't think that NewPipe even allows logging in... I think it is an alternative to that because it allows one to subscribe to channels without an account. What he probably meant is that people who are logged into the Google Services with their google account got im trouble for using NewPipe, which to me seems unlikely. I doubt that Google got away with something like that!

Yeah, I'm confused about what people even talking about with logins. That's not a thing. There's no option to login with Google/Youtube on Newpipe, and that's by design. The value proposition, in addition to being a wonderfully designed, lightweight app, is the ability to subscribe, follow channels, view, download video without any Google/Youtube connection.

I wasn't aware of that at the time. Having used it a bit now, some of the choices do baffle me. It has such wonderfully granular control over bitrate and background behavior, but no option to play the videos you tap on without having to hit a separate "play" button after the video is open? Very odd.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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It's not about virtue, is about you getting a service, and paying something in return. If you don't want to pay with your attention, you have the option of getting Youtube Premium and paying with your wallet insted.

I have no problem with paying for a service with money. I do have a problem in paying for it with my data. If the content creator wants my money for their service, they'll provide a way for me to purchase it without having to use an intermediate surveillance company. Since I block the surveillance company by default, the content creator is not at a loss from me consuming their content without ads - for I simply would…

I'm sorry but it's a little jarring how you don't even acknowledge that Youtube is a service as part of the equation. You speak about the "content creator" providing you with a service, but fully take the platform on which it happens for granted.

If you don't want to feed the "Surveillance company", then don't use Youtube at all. But it is quite arrogant to benefit from their work, acting entitled to it, and then turn around and shit all over them behind their back.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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You can now enable auto-play in the settings.

Well, it sounds to me that the parent comment viewed a lack of autoplay as a feature , but it's nice to know it's actually an option at any rate.

It's nice for listening to music, but a bit cumberstone to use.

I wish:

* the playlist was easily accessible from the left pane drawer

* autoplay was easily toggleable from the playlist view

* the automatically added title wouldn't be a regular title in the playlist before it's played (a bit lower and grayed, and adding items would do so above that title)

* the playlist would show various options for the next automatic title.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I read a lot of people's experiences here in the thread and I think a lot of you really should give YouTube Premium a try. It solves most of the problems you are describing, while also paying the creators

This. If your problem are ads, background-playing and download - then just go with premium. I do understand that some apps provide extra features etc. but premium removes ads cross-platform... and since GoogleMusic is included, it replaces Spotify as well(yes, it's different..).

Discarding the other reasons (one of them is I only use FOSS on my phone), it wouldn't be worth it for my very occasional use of YouTube...

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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> There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. I use an iPhone 6 and have refused to upgrade iOS to the latest version, so there are quite a few apps that don't work on my phone anymore (when launched, they show a message saying I need to get the latest version of the app, but then I can't get it because it's not available for my version of iOS), one of thos…

Why not upgrade to the latest version?

I've had bad experiences upgrading old iPhones. Usually the older os runs better.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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> There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. I use an iPhone 6 and have refused to upgrade iOS to the latest version, so there are quite a few apps that don't work on my phone anymore (when launched, they show a message saying I need to get the latest version of the app, but then I can't get it because it's not available for my version of iOS), one of thos…

If you have installed the app before, you should be able to open the App Store, and go to your past purchases. If you find the app in there, then it should download the last compatible version. I have used that to load old apps onto an iPad that I can't update.

Yes, the app downloads, but then the message still shows up. It's not a phone/os problem, it's the app makers forcing users to only use the latest version.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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> YouTube is a closed platform (server-side), so I personally don't see much moral use of using a libre client. How come? If someone sends me an email to my FOSS server, which I open with my FOSS client, I don't care if the server they used to send me is FOSS or not. If YouTube is just sending me data (not running their code on my machines), why should I care what they run? In any case, to use YouTube Premium you hav…

> In any case, to use YouTube Premium you have to login, and therefore have all your viewings tracked. My understanding is that you can pause watch history, see link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzY79vqPrk

I would assume that stops you from getting any value out of your history, but does not significantly hamper Google's tracking.
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