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Won't amazon cancel them when they keep getting copyright letters? Or do vpns have some other use I am not aware of.
Is your comment implying that VPNs are only used for copyright infringement? Primary use of VPNs I see is to get onto my workplace's network.
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Re: UFO VPN claims zero-logs policy, leaks 20M user logs [resolved]
#62VPN providers are something you should have especially high standards for. They are largely unregulated, can see all of your meta data and have an economical incentive to sell it (IIRC some big player has been caught doing that). If a provider shows even the slightest amount of fishiness, instantly discard them (NordVPN immediately comes to mind, with their weird influencer marketing campaign).
How? I mean how do you measure VPN services? I never understood why people working in tech would ever trust a VPN service? A VPN is seeing all your traffic, and you have to take their word that they do not log any of it? I use free tier AWS servers across the globe with wireguard. It might not be perfect, but I still prefer that than using a VPN service.
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I also use Mullvad and I pay by sending an anonymous envelope of cash to Sweden with a random number scribbled on a bit of paper. So far all of the cash I’ve sent has been added to my accounts. There’s obviously no way to know whether they follow through on their no-log claim but my sense is they’re pretty trustworthy. At the very least the person who opens their mail is.
I can't tell if this is real or not. Do you actually send cash to Sweden?
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#64What's the most trustworthy VPN that HN users recommend? My 3 year subscription to my local one is about to run out! Looking for advice on what is trusted nowadays!
I have been using Mullvad for the last few years: https://mullvad.net/en/ I don't have much to base it on but they seem trustworthy, and I've seen them recommended here before.
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#65VPN providers are something you should have especially high standards for. They are largely unregulated, can see all of your meta data and have an economical incentive to sell it (IIRC some big player has been caught doing that). If a provider shows even the slightest amount of fishiness, instantly discard them (NordVPN immediately comes to mind, with their weird influencer marketing campaign).
How? I mean how do you measure VPN services? I never understood why people working in tech would ever trust a VPN service? A VPN is seeing all your traffic, and you have to take their word that they do not log any of it? I use free tier AWS servers across the globe with wireguard. It might not be perfect, but I still prefer that than using a VPN service.
It's pretty difficult. You can't say anything for sure, it's all trust. That's why you should be so strict.
When you host your own end point you still have to trustits provider of course, but of course the incentive (concentrated, specific user traffic data) for abuse is much reduced.
But how anonymous are you actually? Are you sure your traffic can't be connected to you? Certain you set everything up correctly?
With my provider of choice, because I trust them reasonably much (sure feels like jinxing it), I don't have these worries.
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#66What's the most trustworthy VPN that HN users recommend? My 3 year subscription to my local one is about to run out! Looking for advice on what is trusted nowadays!
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How does that help? If you're the only one with traffic from that IP, how does that give any privacy? Especially if you pay with something tied to your identity. And why does a VPS have any less likelihood of logging your traffic?
it's good for things like public wifi and other untrusted networks since your data is encrypted from your machine to the vpn server
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
How? I mean how do you measure VPN services? I never understood why people working in tech would ever trust a VPN service? A VPN is seeing all your traffic, and you have to take their word that they do not log any of it? I use free tier AWS servers across the globe with wireguard. It might not be perfect, but I still prefer that than using a VPN service.
Won't amazon cancel them when they keep getting copyright letters? Or do vpns have some other use I am not aware of.
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#69Can you chain two VPNs?
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#70What's the most trustworthy VPN that HN users recommend? My 3 year subscription to my local one is about to run out! Looking for advice on what is trusted nowadays!
I second Mullvad also. They don't even have usernames, emails or passwords. All you use to log in is a random number for your account. Can't get much more anonymous than that. And they financially sponsor wireguard, have a bunch of wireguard servers. Can't recommend them enough.