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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by Fogest »

colordrops wrote: post #376
Fogest wrote: post #365

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"endpoints with authentication" -- Because you don't have to login to watch YouTube... It's not easy to block third party access, it often ends up being a whack-a-mole style game where you block it and then they just get in using a different method. YouTube already has been doing this. On top of this you are taking money from the creators of the content, not just YouTube itself and violating their terms of service. I…

Whether a corporation tells people to do something or not is not a direct mapping to whether something is ethical or not. It wouldn't be wack-a-mole if they just had proper authentication instead of using the freemium model. It's their choice to open up their APIs to unauthenticated anonymous users due to their shady advertising revenue model, and the costs are calculated in their models. BTW, I've never once read or…

I see you chose to ignore part of my reply mentioning the creators you are taking content from without paying. YouTube does not care as much, but the creators are the ones hurt the most, not YouTube.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by specialist »

drbacon wrote: post #120
specialist wrote: post #94

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So you're saying Google (YouTube) should share some of their lion's share of cheddar with content creators?

Definitely. Creators do get the lion share of YouTube's gross revenue. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/03261...

YouTube just showed me a COVID-19 hoax ad. I forgot I paused ad blocking.

Fuck YouTube.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by userbinator »

andretti1977 wrote: post #293
userbinator wrote: post #210

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Do you think we should be forced to consume all content that gets shoved down our throats, never turn away or cover your ears or close your eyes? Because that's what you seem to be implying. My eyes, my ears, my brain. I'll consume your content how I want.

I think that if you don't accept the terms of use of a service, then you shouldn't use that service and consuming advertisment is exactly how the YT service has been conceived: its primary monetization form is advertising so if i want to use its service, i have to consume ads. If i don't want to see their ads then i'm completely free to not use that service. I think similar considerations are valid for ads on website…

Do you also read all the ads on websites, and remember them too (because by some definition of "consume", that would be necessary)?

I hope you enjoy being force-fed content, because that's the future you're advocating for.

It's extremely disturbing to see people essentially advocating for the loss of control over their own minds and senses.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by colordrops »

Fogest wrote: post #381
colordrops wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether a corporation tells people to do something or not is not a direct mapping to whether something is ethical or not. It wouldn't be wack-a-mole if they just had proper authentication instead of using the freemium model. It's their choice to open up their APIs to unauthenticated anonymous users due to their shady advertising revenue model, and the costs are calculated in their models. BTW, I've never once read or…

I see you chose to ignore part of my reply mentioning the creators you are taking content from without paying. YouTube does not care as much, but the creators are the ones hurt the most, not YouTube.

This points more to a problem with the monopolistic walled garden rather than the user. It's like saying a slave won't have food if you shoot the slave owner.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by heinrich5991 »

datagram wrote: post #327
anoncake wrote: post #114

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What can Google's app do what NewPipe can't?

Support content creators? It seems like NewPipe can't even add an option to enable ads because third-party ads are against F-Droid policy.

I think you're allowed to do third party ads (as long you can display them without running proprietrary code...).

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by collinmanderson »

themodelplumber wrote: post #368
devenblake wrote: post #358

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Why not upgrade to the latest version?

I don't know about op, but when I was using iOS, I developed a firm "only one major OS upgrade allowed" rule after two of my devices were effectively hobbled / near-bricked by iOS upgrades 2+ major versions after the store-bought version.

The latest iOS version (from Sept 2019) isn’t even compatible with iPhone 6, so it’s not even an option to upgrade.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by cyphar »

product50 wrote: post #263
slim wrote: post #160

I hope the developers are here. I'm so grateful for this app and especially the support : Everytime YouTube obfuscates their API to take them down, they quickly publish an updated app that works. please donate : https://newpipe.schabi.org/donate/

I hope you realize that apps like these kill the ecosystem for content creators who are paid based on ads. If you don't like YT ads, pay for the premium version. But suggesting that this app is great is not right. Anyways, I trust if this becomes big, YT will kill them anyways. YT API requires keys and they know exactly what is going on here and can shut it down in a heartbeat if they want to. This is exactly what ha…

People already use ad blockers on YouTube which have a similar effect, so this isn't a unique "problem" to NewPipe. I also directly financially support creators whose content I enjoy and most large creators these days have advertisements embedded in their videos, as well as asking for support through means other than AdSense.

But more importantly, the main reason I use NewPipe is because it has basic features that the official YouTube app doesn't provide -- playing videos in an overlay and in the background (so you can lock your screen and continue playing the video). You can get this incredibly basic feature if you pay for YouTube Red, which seems to indicate the only reason this feature isn't provided for the free version is spite. And that is the benefit of free software.

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