I wouldn't trust any VPN under China's sphere of influence.
UFO VPN claims zero-logs policy, leaks 20M user logs [resolved]
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#12The old saying trust but verify always seems to come up. Companies claim x and we find it to be untrue. They apologize, share statement they will do better and the cycle continues. Is anyone else tired of the tomfoolery?
Do you have a suggestion on how to verify the claims of a company you only interact with over the Internet? (edit: not that I disagree with you, I honestly don't see a practical way to do that. It's not like security seals have proven their worth in pixels either)
The sensible thing to do is to assume a cynical mind. Unfortunately, with stuff like this, you'll probably be more often right then wrong, though you may never find out.
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#13@dang: can the title be changed to "UFO VPN claims zero-logs policy, leaks 20M user logs". So users don't have to click through to the story to find out which firm?
Ok done.
Edit: I also changed the URL from https://www.hackread.com/vpn-firm-zero-logs-policy-leaks-20-... to what seems to be the original source.
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#14What's the most trustworthy VPN that HN users recommend? My 3 year subscription to my local one is about to run out! Looking for advice on what is trusted nowadays!
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#15I think that at this point it is far easier to just setup a socks proxy with an vloud based machine than to research which firms have shady practices and which dont. I went into a womrhole over NordVPN vs PIA vs ProtonVpn and then just went with a proxy server. Costs peanuts with the cloud compute ecosystem.
>then just went with a proxy server. Costs peanuts with the cloud compute ecosystem.
The problem with personally operated VPN servers is that all the traffic ties back to a single user: you. This is fine if you're on a malicious network and need secure exit node for your data, but for anonymity (eg. ad tracking, DMCA) it's objectively worse.
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#16What's the most trustworthy VPN that HN users recommend? My 3 year subscription to my local one is about to run out! Looking for advice on what is trusted nowadays!
No such thing. You would be better off renting an inexpensive VPS and running your own VPN on it.
Public VPN services have to be the one of the greatest lemon markets to have ever existed:
You want people's private data? People will pay you to give it to them. Go ahead and sell the service for less than it costs due to the boatloads of data that you get.
People realize this, so you end up getting a disproportionate number of customers that don't worry about you getting their data because they're only using the service to behave abusively... which drives up costs.
So an honest provider has to deal with dishonest competition selling below cost and a customer base that is saturated with problem customers because good customers are savy enough to avoid VPNs.
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#17I wouldn't trust any VPN under China's sphere of influence.
That's actually not an entirely crazy idea if you're trying to hide from Western governments. Are you more worried about the Chinese government coming after you? Likewise, if someone in China is trying to hide from the Chinese government, it might not be a bad idea to use an USA based VPN. Maybe string up a bunch of VPNs in regions that are at least somewhat hostile to each other and it might be too hard to track an IP back to its source. I guess trust no government and use their hostility towards each other to your advantage? Just an idea prompted by your comment.
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#18What's the most trustworthy VPN that HN users recommend? My 3 year subscription to my local one is about to run out! Looking for advice on what is trusted nowadays!
I have been using Mullvad for the last few years: https://mullvad.net/en/
I don't have much to base it on but they seem trustworthy, and I've seen them recommended here before.
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#19What's the most trustworthy VPN that HN users recommend? My 3 year subscription to my local one is about to run out! Looking for advice on what is trusted nowadays!
Commercially I’d say ProtonVPN or PrivateInternetAccess.
Best is to make your own, checkout https://github.com/StreisandEffect/streisand for an easy way to set that up.
Re: UFO VPN claims zero-logs policy, leaks 20M user logs [resolved]
#20What's the most trustworthy VPN that HN users recommend? My 3 year subscription to my local one is about to run out! Looking for advice on what is trusted nowadays!
No such thing. You would be better off renting an inexpensive VPS and running your own VPN on it. Public VPN services have to be the one of the greatest lemon markets to have ever existed: You want people's private data? People will pay you to give it to them. Go ahead and sell the service for less than it costs due to the boatloads of data that you get. People realize this, so you end up getting a disproportionate n…
Your proposed alternative does not address the threat model that most people have when looking for a "VPN".