Cloudflare was down • Hacker News Board

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by acid__ » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:47 PM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #199

jeremyjh wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's start a betting pool. How many upvotes do you think OP will get before the status page acknowledges a problem? I say its going to be 600.

You lost. ;) 476 points, status page says it's down now.

As one would expect, it says "degraded performance" instead of "down" lol

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by AdamGibbins » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:48 PM UTC

blisseyGo wrote: post #252

saagarjha wrote: post #43

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Hacker News is an excellent status page for those cases.

Out of curiosity, done HN use any CDN or other way of DDOS protection? dang?

It's hosted on AWS, you don't need DDoS protection, just a big wallet.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by Rockjodd » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:48 PM UTC

Rockjodd wrote: post #81

For people who reports this is down, which country are you in? Because all the reported sites works flawless from Norway (Europe) :-)

I put my bet on some peering fuckups, causing outrages since people are having packet loss etc.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by leijurv » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:48 PM UTC

maxk42 wrote: post #217

alex_young wrote: post #87

Yesterday I noticed most of their lava lamps are out (which generate random bits). Perhaps these are a critical component. https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6eR8V2PSY3EVjCLA

I'm sure you were joking but they actually are: https://blog.cloudflare.com/lavarand-in-production-the-nitty...

Someone needs to get these lava lamps plugged back in ASAP!

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by snazz » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:49 PM UTC

blisseyGo wrote: post #252

saagarjha wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hacker News is an excellent status page for those cases.

Out of curiosity, done HN use any CDN or other way of DDOS protection? dang?

Don't think so. They used to use Cloudflare but stopped. To my knowledge, it's a single server without a database (using the filesystem as a database).

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by BrianHenryIE » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:49 PM UTC

dafoex wrote: post #248

rococode wrote: post #9

Discord is entirely down right now, both the website and the app itself. Amusingly, a lot of the sites that normally track outages are also down, which made me think it was my internet at first. Downdetector, monitortheinternet, etc. Lots of other big sites that are down: Patreon, npmjs, DigitalOcean, Coinbase, Zendesk, Medium, GitLab (502), Fiverr, Upwork, Udemy Edit: 15 min later, looks like things are starting to…

I can live without creepy instant messengers, but its shocking just how much everything else relies on one, central system. And furthermore, why is it always cloudflair?

Cloudflare is free and has a nice UI. I manage ~40 domains from ~six domain registrars through it, the consistency is great. The caching is a bonus.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by the8472 » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:49 PM UTC

remmargorp64 wrote: post #193

ashleyn wrote: post #107

It really defies the original vision of the internet to have so many services depend on a single company. Almost every news site I was reading dropped off at once. I thought for a second that I lost internet in my own house.

I consider DNS and the way how top level domains are handled to be one of the weakest parts of our current Internet design. We REALLY need a truly decentralized, distributed DNS system that is not owned by private entities.

DNS is far less of a single point of failure and more decentralized than cloudflare. Nameservers can and are operated redundantly via simple, resolver-side round-robin scheduling and the TLD servers should have longer TTLs that allow plenty of caching. The rootzone even has anycast thanks to using UDP. Take a moment to look at DoH and laugh.

You can also also register your domain on multiple TLDs.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by ivalm » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:50 PM UTC

blisseyGo wrote: post #252

saagarjha wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hacker News is an excellent status page for those cases.

Out of curiosity, done HN use any CDN or other way of DDOS protection? dang?

Their dns record points to only one IP (209.216.230.240) that goes to M5 Computer Security

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by cm2187 » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:50 PM UTC

scarby2 wrote: post #204

cm2187 wrote: post #117

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A sudden disruption on a large number of services for everybody at once doesn't look like a DNS problem to me, with all the caching in DNS. It would fail progressively and inconsistently.

given that TTLs are usually very short now if your DNS server is configured correctly then caching shouldn't make a bit of difference.

I looked at the example above, all of patron, digitalocean, coinbase and gitlab (haven't checked the others) have a ttl of 1h.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by gpm » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 9:50 PM UTC

acid__ wrote: post #261

jedberg wrote: post #199

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You lost. ;) 476 points, status page says it's down now.

As one would expect, it says "degraded performance" instead of "down" lol

Tested with tor and it's right. Some exit nodes aren't affected.