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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by seanzieapples »

dennisy wrote: post #259

There are people whose living is made from YouTube and it’s advertising component. Whilst I would personally prefer videos with no ads, is this not stealing? I would be very interested to hear this groups view on why this is morally ok. Also what alternatives there should be to an ad revenue model for YouTube type sites.

If you set up a Google Family (or whatever it's called) of 6 and just pay for the subscription it ends up costing like $3/month for YouTube Red. Been doing this for 5 years and just have my family pay me their share at the beginning of the year.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by BlueGh0st »

INTPenis wrote: post #198
de6u99er wrote: post #192

YouTube is one of the worst Android apps in regards of usability, accidental clicks, and anoying ads. It would be great if there was a way installing the app without allowing third party sources. Haven't developed on Android since years. Does anyone know if I can build it and upload it via ADB without enabling apps from 3rd party sources.

The ads in youtube this past year have been a bit scary. I'm assuming some weird ads are getting past the moderators because I'm in Sweden, and it's not a big ad market maybe. Either way, I get misspelled ads, or ads that just say "18 YEAR OLD WOMEN" in some shitty 1999 font that is barely legible. Edit: I'm talking about the clickable ads interspersed between videos in the UI.

I've been getting ads for months now that show a devastating natural disaster approaching my location. It was very alarming the first few times I saw it. Reporting it has done nothing.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by loudtieblahblah »

1f60c wrote: post #224
toastercat wrote: post #61

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It may be mistaken on HN, but all social media companies are gamed by corporations, political parties, foreign governments, native governments, intelligence agencies, powerful churches, lobby groups, media companies, advertisers.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by ehsankia »

samtheprogram wrote: post #246
benhurmarcel wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would it be forbidden by Apple to publish a similar app for iOS?

I had another comment refuting the GP (as you are), but the more I thought about it, I decided to delete the comment. At the end of the day, you have to pay $99/year to publish on the Apple App Store, and on Android, although Google has had some shady practices around automatically flagging/removing apps from it's store, you have more options in terms of app distribution, such as F-Droid. To my (now deleted) comment'…

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not very familiar with iOS, but it's not so much F-Droid that makes Android great, but rather the fact that you are allowed to install apps outside of the Play Store. As far as I know, that's not possible on iOS without jailbreak (or the whole Testflight stuff that was being abused).

F-Droid is just a visible example of that functionality.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by INTPenis »

wolco wrote: post #262
INTPenis wrote: post #198

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The ads in youtube this past year have been a bit scary. I'm assuming some weird ads are getting past the moderators because I'm in Sweden, and it's not a big ad market maybe. Either way, I get misspelled ads, or ads that just say "18 YEAR OLD WOMEN" in some shitty 1999 font that is barely legible. Edit: I'm talking about the clickable ads interspersed between videos in the UI.

An ad for "18 YEAR OLD WOMEN" is scary? They don't bite. It seems generic not really weird.

They have a shady vibe to them is what I mean. Like e-mail spam.

Another example is "Generic viking game", like literally. It just says some generic viking game, no brand or recognizable name. It looks just like phishing.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by jsnell »

toastercat wrote: post #64
sjroot wrote: post #32

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Most likely. I understand the appeal of these types of applications but it really just comes off as entitled IMO. Just watch the ads to support the content creators you care about - it isn’t that hard. I imagine this will be an unpopular opinion here though.

It's certainly not a popular opinion, but it's definitely an uninformed opinion. The aim of NewPipe is not to "stick it to the man" or even to advertisers, it's to create a superior viewing experience that removes much of the bloat of Youtube's official app, and also being light on system resources. Whereas the official app used to crash and warm up my Moto G5 Plus, NewPipe has been running like a dream for years.

The title of this post leads with "ad-free". Seems like it's the main selling point.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by VikingCoder »

ativzzz wrote: post #319
VikingCoder wrote: post #139

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https://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms#ad6952fd3c Under the heading, "Permissions and Restrictions": > The following restrictions apply to your use of the Service. You are not allowed to: > 1. access, reproduce, download, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, alter, modify or otherwise use any part of the Service or any Content except: (a) as expressly authorized by the Service; or (b) with…

The users using 3rd party apps don't violate any of these terms (I'm sure you could argue it both ways depending on the specific legal terms depending on the context; IANAL). The app itself is probably violating some of these terms, but for the end users, they are not doing any of the things described, they are just using the app. I think this is just one of those cases where copyright/IP law moves too slowly compare…

I'm sorry, but a plain English reading of those Terms and Conditions shows that any users using 3rd party apps violates the terms.

They are "accessing ... part of the Service or Content [without being] expressly authorized."

To make it concrete, as an example, a user using youtube-dl is violating the terms. Not the makers of youtube-dl.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by ehsankia »

valvar wrote: post #286
product50 wrote: post #263

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I hope you realize that apps like these kill the ecosystem for content creators who are paid based on ads. If you don't like YT ads, pay for the premium version. But suggesting that this app is great is not right. Anyways, I trust if this becomes big, YT will kill them anyways. YT API requires keys and they know exactly what is going on here and can shut it down in a heartbeat if they want to. This is exactly what ha…

If I want to support a content creator, I do so by donating to them directly, not by allowing a massive and (in my personal opinion) evil company to profit both of my and their backs. Not to mention that both seeing ads and using the official YouTube app is quite unpleasant. I am very grateful to the developers of NewPipe for providing me with a painless way to experience the content produced by creators that I like,…

Honest and serious question, if Youtube were to shut down tomorrow, do people think that whatever alternative (or even better, competing alternatives) would have a different model?

I'm curious to know what exactly would you do differently if you were to make a replacement for Youtube.

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Post by BoorishBears »

Kiro wrote: post #280
BoorishBears wrote: post #216

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You know, usually when people use "/s" to denote sarcasm I scoff. Because "who would need such obvious sarcasm denoted? Yet, here we are...

And yet you are the one who misinterpreted the sarcasm here. Look at your sibling comment.

Maybe you should read that sibling comment again?

The part they marked "/s" was sarcasm, the sibling comment isn't saying otherwise.

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Post by [deleted] »

Sebb767 wrote: post #77
WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #56

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If I could guarantee the ad revenue went to the creator and not a company hitting the creator with bullshit strikes, sure!

You mean the company paying for the storage, conversion, bandwidth, global availability and upkeep? I mean, the creator should have its share, but it's not like YouTube does nothing.

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