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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by legolas2412 »

beervirus wrote: post #231
andretti1977 wrote: post #207

I'm completely against Google usage of personal informations and hate annoying and bad ux on official YouTube app but, to be honest, ads support creators with revenue so when you "avoid ads", you are harming creators too, not only Google. I think that if you don't like YT app and advertising, you simply shouldn't use YouTube.

Give them a few bucks via Patreon or whatever then. That's more benefit than they'll receive from your eyes being assaulted with hours of ads.

Umm, or one could just buy YouTube premium?

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by valvar »

wolco wrote: post #262
INTPenis wrote: post #198

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The ads in youtube this past year have been a bit scary. I'm assuming some weird ads are getting past the moderators because I'm in Sweden, and it's not a big ad market maybe. Either way, I get misspelled ads, or ads that just say "18 YEAR OLD WOMEN" in some shitty 1999 font that is barely legible. Edit: I'm talking about the clickable ads interspersed between videos in the UI.

An ad for "18 YEAR OLD WOMEN" is scary? They don't bite. It seems generic not really weird.

It sounds like the sort of shady ads you would get on torrent websites or image boards.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by zeta0134 »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #269
zeta0134 wrote: post #260

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On Firefox for Android for example, the vast majority of video playing sites automatically continue to play in the background. YouTube should, but it has code specifically to check for Firefox tabs being backgrounded and pause the player. So it's going out of its way to disable a feature of the browser. Happily this can be reversed with an extension, but yes, it is an intentional anti-feature. Whether you agree with…

Fwiw, the relatively few creators who are talking about it publicly tend to agree that cpm is (much) higher for premium users than users monetized through ads. So if you want creators to get more money, paying for premium is better than watching ads.

This right here is why I maintain my subscription even though I do not run the official app. :) Well, that and I mostly watch YouTube on my desktop with an ad blocker, so creators weren't getting ad impressions from me anyway. I figure that's a fair trade.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by thetinguy »

dennisy wrote: post #259

There are people whose living is made from YouTube and it’s advertising component. Whilst I would personally prefer videos with no ads, is this not stealing? I would be very interested to hear this groups view on why this is morally ok. Also what alternatives there should be to an ad revenue model for YouTube type sites.

Surprised by how little people are talking about this. Those ads are the only source of income for some creators.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by stiray »

black_puppydog wrote: post #234
nimajneb wrote: post #212

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You need Youtube Premium for that. I have a legacy Google Play Music subscription and sometimes I feel like my experience vastly different than people without Youtube Premium. I use Youtube enough I'm ok paying to not see ads and play videos with my phone screen off.

Oh they have been very clear about needing youtube premium for that. I do get it to an extent. If people want to use it as a jukebox. I have spotify and mp3s for that. I want to play videos in the background that don't have actual visual content ("people talking to the camera" style) and google doesn't want that. Luckily I can use alternatives for nearly all content like this, first and foremost actual RSS podcasts.…

I dont mind paying for the feature but I do mind having google aplication on my phone (which I dont - none).

The trust in google not taking away my contacts, spying on my position, requiring to have their gms on my phone (which will further grab as much of my data they can have) is virtually zero.

And with a very good and well known couse.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by noarchy »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #155
noarchy wrote: post #57

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>Um. Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? >Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. That is definitely an option, but people who use things like youtube-dl or apps like NewPipe probably aren't in the target audience for YouTube Premium. >Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone.…

> Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? It's to add condescension.

>It's to add condescension.

That was my assumption. Things like "um" and "uh" tend to be silence-fillers, among other things (see below). It's weird to see them being typed-out, and I've noted an uptick in how often I see it being done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_disfluency

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by 0-_-0 »

Latty wrote: post #134
0-_-0 wrote: post #91

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My brain doesn't either :)

Hah, it depends on the video/podcast I'm watching/listening to for sure, but sometimes 2.5x/3x is very nice. I think I sort of built it up over time though, I remember not being able to do 2x previously because it seemed to fast, but I guess I got used to it.

I can barely do 2x, I should practice then! Depends a lot on the speaker too.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by umvi »

dennisy wrote: post #259

There are people whose living is made from YouTube and it’s advertising component. Whilst I would personally prefer videos with no ads, is this not stealing? I would be very interested to hear this groups view on why this is morally ok. Also what alternatives there should be to an ad revenue model for YouTube type sites.

> Whilst I would personally prefer videos with no ads, is this not stealing?

The usual response you'll get is "is it stealing if I go to the bathroom during a TV ad break?" or "that's why content creators have in-video paid sponsorship blurbs"

I personally think those are flimsy justifications though. I think it's stealing to bypass ads when the company hosting the service has a clear avenue for paid ad-free viewing.

It would be like creating an app that streams the free-tier of Crunchyroll ad-free while still using Crunchyroll's bandwidth. Dishonest.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by bargl »

product50 wrote: post #263
slim wrote: post #160

I hope the developers are here. I'm so grateful for this app and especially the support : Everytime YouTube obfuscates their API to take them down, they quickly publish an updated app that works. please donate : https://newpipe.schabi.org/donate/

I hope you realize that apps like these kill the ecosystem for content creators who are paid based on ads. If you don't like YT ads, pay for the premium version. But suggesting that this app is great is not right. Anyways, I trust if this becomes big, YT will kill them anyways. YT API requires keys and they know exactly what is going on here and can shut it down in a heartbeat if they want to. This is exactly what ha…

I would hope we can find a way for apps like this to exist while still paying youtube and content creators. Something like and API subscription for a third party algorithm tool like this that pay youtube part of the subscription.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by Kiro »

BoorishBears wrote: post #216
izacus wrote: post #201

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> I really wonder why so many innocuous, on-topic comments about NewPipe are being downvoted in this thread. Are YouTube employees raiding HN or something? /s At this point pretty much all comments saying that this is bypassing paid features are downvoted into oblivion and grayed out, so what exactly are you talking about?

You know, usually when people use "/s" to denote sarcasm I scoff. Because "who would need such obvious sarcasm denoted? Yet, here we are...

And yet you are the one who misinterpreted the sarcasm here. Look at your sibling comment.
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