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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by skinkestek »

izacus wrote: post #49
piyush_soni wrote: post #29

Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.

Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO. It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.

I used to be in your camp but after Google had only showed a number of us irrelevant ads for years after years I decided it didn't matter: I don't want to date hot Russian/Taiwanese/Ukrainian/Thai women, I'm not interested in dating elderly women near me - and I'm not interested in dating guys either. Nothing against any of those persons, but I'm happily married after all so even the idea of browsing those sites is crazy to me (not that I used any of them before either).

With that I have almost exhausted the list of ads that Google thought has been relevant for me since I started dating my wife well over a decade ago.

Why they cannot show ads for family holidays, programming conferences, local stores etc I don't know but if I had to guess I'd say they could need some diversity on their teams ;-). (Adding a few married parents with stable marriages and small children should do the trick, but I am not interested and haven't been for a couple of years, I find Google close to disgusting sometimes and whatever technical edge it has has disappeared to the degree that I'm positively surprised to just see sane results like they used to be in 2007.)

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by heavyset_go »

VikingCoder wrote: post #175
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is willfully sending the data. If they want stricter access controls it's their job to implement them. TOS isn't a binding contract since one side never gets a chance to negotiate terms.

Yes, and if they start identifying Google accounts that share the IP of a device violating YouTube TOS and disabling those accounts, some people will be very sad. They should at least consider the possibility. Go in with open eyes, so to say. This story comes to mind: https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/239728-google-suspends-ac...

> Yes, and if they start identifying Google accounts that share the IP of a device violating YouTube TOS and disabling those accounts, some people will be very sad.

If this happens, even more people will take their eggs out of Google's basket. I've already migrated my email to another provider and use Searx[1] for search.

[1] https://github.com/asciimoo/searx

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by londons_explore »

dmitrygr wrote: post #162
NullPrefix wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please not mention adblock. Last thing we want is google banning adblock users

Fun story: adblock does NOT block youtube ads. It would be almost impossible to - they are served from the same inscrutable urls as real videos. Instead youtube detects adblock and does not show ads to adblock users on purpose. So next time you see a YouTube employee, thank them for that

I don't think this is accurate...

Adblock Plus for example uses EasyList by default, and that contains this rule to block the ads:

  youtube.com#@#.video-ads
Your claim might still be correct if google keeps that class name to avoid breaking adblockers (considering most other class names on google properties are randomly generated and change each week)

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by oblio »

dmitrygr wrote: post #162
NullPrefix wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please not mention adblock. Last thing we want is google banning adblock users

Fun story: adblock does NOT block youtube ads. It would be almost impossible to - they are served from the same inscrutable urls as real videos. Instead youtube detects adblock and does not show ads to adblock users on purpose. So next time you see a YouTube employee, thank them for that

I can tell you for sure that I've been seeing Youtube ads even though I use uBlock Origin. So they definitely don't try to avoid adblockers.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by oefrha »

toastercat wrote: post #61

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Downvoted this for complaining about downvotes, breaking site guidelines (oh, not only that, it combines snark and insinuation about astroturfing too). Votes swing a lot, so when more votes come in and previously downvoted comments turn positive, complaints like this just end up as pure noise. Happens all the time.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

izacus wrote: post #49
piyush_soni wrote: post #29

Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.

Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO. It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.

To all the downvoters: you are experiencing cognitive dissonance. You cheat, yet convince yourself somehow that what you do isn’t wrong. But deep, deep down you know.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by unleashit »

drewg123 wrote: post #18

This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…

It works well for me on Android TV with Nvidia Shield. At one point I noticed after a Newpipe upgrade I couldn't get the cursor to go down to the list of videos. So I downgraded for a couple of weeks. Then when the next version came out I tried it and it was fine again.

One weird thing I noticed was that I used to be able to get a mouse style cursor with the right stick, but that stopped working at some point. Not sure if the change was NewPipe or OS level, but it's still manageable.

If you have USB ports you can always try other types of inputs. Aside from plain keyboard/mouse, there are a bunch of interesting options these days.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by Nginx487 »

izacus wrote: post #49
piyush_soni wrote: post #29

Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.

Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO. It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.

On the other hand, blocking absolutely adequate YouTube accounts (engineering, education, history) without explanation and appeal process is super unethical. Creating monopoly (which definition YouTube perfectly fits) is not only unethical, but against the law, as well as constant user's privacy violations.
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