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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by djeiasbsbo »

I absolutely love NewPipe but I do think that it progresses very slowly and that might be why it is often ignored for the other popular pip youtube client, youtube vanced.

Maybe it is just the rate at which binaries get released... For example, it has had comments support for some time now but only for top level comments. However, iirc the pull request that introduced this also had an example implementation of fully working comment support. So why is this not yet implemented?

I recognise that I should probably just build from master or some dev branch which has more features myself...

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by namdnay »

anoncake wrote: post #112
namdnay wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well yeah but it also removes ads... which are how content creators and the people who build and maintain the platform infrastructure make a living.

It doesn't remove ads, it just doesn't play them. Why do you expect the developer spend effort on funneling money to Google while degrading the viewing experience?

Because they’re the ones hosting and serving the video?

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

VikingCoder wrote: post #146
frenchy wrote: post #135

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> Google has terms of use on their service. > You are violating those terms of service. That's not what piracy means, and that's not how the law works. If I state that the terms of service of reading this comment are that you must hop on one leg for the rest of your life, and you continue to walk on two, you won't be violating any laws.

I didn't say you're violating laws (but you may well be violating DMCA sections), I said you're violating terms of service. The expectation could be that they halt your use of the service, block access to their other service, and may disable your account. OP claimed, "It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like." That is not accurate. He doesn't magically GA…

Google is willfully sending the data. If they want stricter access controls it's their job to implement them. TOS isn't a binding contract since one side never gets a chance to negotiate terms.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by Nextgrid »

noarchy wrote: post #38
sgloutnikov wrote: post #14

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Musi[1] is what I use for playing in the background on iOS. [1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/musi-simple-music-streaming/id...

I'm not sure that Apple would ban it. Do they really care if people bypass YouTube's intended restrictions? Obviously Google cares, so you won't be seeing NewPipe on the Play Store.

Apple is in bed with major scummy companies like Google when it comes to the Apple Store and has removed alternative clients in the past.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by VikingCoder »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #173
VikingCoder wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say you're violating laws (but you may well be violating DMCA sections), I said you're violating terms of service. The expectation could be that they halt your use of the service, block access to their other service, and may disable your account. OP claimed, "It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like." That is not accurate. He doesn't magically GA…

Google is willfully sending the data. If they want stricter access controls it's their job to implement them. TOS isn't a binding contract since one side never gets a chance to negotiate terms.

Yes, and if they start identifying Google accounts that share the IP of a device violating YouTube TOS and disabling those accounts, some people will be very sad.

They should at least consider the possibility. Go in with open eyes, so to say.

This story comes to mind:

https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/239728-google-suspends-ac...

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by djeiasbsbo »

causality0 wrote: post #165
NullPrefix wrote: post #136

The app is great, but wasn't google recently banning user accounts for it? Youtube account and google account is same thing, so this app is useful only for othwerwise ungoogled users

Like all third-party youtube apps and downloaders, you should use a dummy account that's subscribed to all the same channels as your real one.

I don't think that NewPipe even allows logging in... I think it is an alternative to that because it allows one to subscribe to channels without an account.

What he probably meant is that people who are logged into the Google Services with their google account got im trouble for using NewPipe, which to me seems unlikely. I doubt that Google got away with something like that!

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by ghastmaster »

jedimastert wrote: post #34
piyush_soni wrote: post #29

Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.

That's probably why it's on F-Droid

That is where I first ran into this app. Unfortunately the f-droid version is 0.15.1 while the current git release is 0.19.6.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by dmos62 »

drewg123 wrote: post #18

This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…

I've had it on my phone for some time, but 75% of the time it fails to play the video, complaining that it failed to parse the video page, or something similar. With youtube-dl, you have to keep it updated for it to not crash with similar errors, so might be a question of updates not being regular enough (I use F-Droid to update it).

Also, suggestion capabilities of Youtube are very high. I'll always be coming back for that until there is an alternative. Unfortunately, that also means that using non-official players is counterproductive (I want to feed the recommendation engine).

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by NMDaniel »

VikingCoder wrote: post #170
NMDaniel wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowhere did I imply that I'd gain copyright over the content. What's the difference between downloading and streaming a video? It's OK for the bytes to stay in main memory/network cache, but not in HDD? Would taking a memory dump of the RAM break their TOS?

Yes, you did imply that you'd be able to copy the content how you like, when you said, "It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like." YouTube lets you rent movies for 48 hours. You download a movie. You then claimed you can watch the movie in any form you like. Such as, later than the 48 hours.

Sorry, I wasn't aware that YouTube lets you rent movies, I was mostly speaking about normal clips that anyone can watch for free.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by G4E »

ghastmaster wrote: post #177
jedimastert wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's probably why it's on F-Droid

That is where I first ran into this app. Unfortunately the f-droid version is 0.15.1 while the current git release is 0.19.6.

You might want to update your fdroid database or turn on "show beta versions" in the settings, as I see and have the v0.19.5 installed from fdroid.
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